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the R7 240 and R7 250 are both weaker than the HD 7750. the R7 250 is basically a dGPU variant of what's on-die in the A10 7700K Kaveri. the R7 250X is a HD 7770 rebrand, the R9 270 and R9 270X are both HD 7870 (pitcairn, not the Tahiti LE 7870XT) rebrands.
No, kaveri igpu has same number of shader cores, rops and such however 7750 is gcn1.0 and kaveri on die gpu is gcn 1.1 ... so it is more similar to the 7790... basically kaveri igpu is cut down 7790
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Only the 7850k has all eight GCN cores enabled. The rest of the A10s are similar to a built-in 250.
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What it "should" cost isn't what will happen. PCPer talked about this on their podcast last night and it was a completely valid point - literally every single one and all of the R7 cards are way above the MSRP at the moment due to AMD's lowered wafer orders @ TSMC last year and component shortages (see sweclockers for information on this, visiontek also confirmed parts shortages for all AMD cards). Due to component shortages, miners, lowered wafer orders by AMD @ TSMC, and a few other factors - none of the cards are actually at MSRP especially in the states. This is most apparent at Tigerdirect, NCIX, newegg, mwave, and a host of other etailers in the states. What these cards "should" cost doesn't happen in reality, with all of the R7 cards actually 30-40$ above MSRP.

I give the 265 about 2 hours before the price gets jacked way up at etail, just like every other AMD R7 and R9 card. It will probably hit retail at 180$+, which makes it a losing card compared to the GTX 660 which is either on par in some games or faster in others. Hopefully AMD can get their component shortage in line so that these cards actually appear at MSRP, but I doubt that will happen. At 150$, it's a great card. At 180$+? No. Especially since the 750ti is hitting next week and apparently according to rumors will perform at the GTX 480 level and with a 60W TDP at that. That would put it on par with the 7850 while using less than half the power (R7 265 is a 150W TDP, for comparison).

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does anyone know the exact release date that r7 265 will go on sale? cant seem to find it anywhere on the interwebs. I want to pick one up but i want to only pay 150. Hoping if i know the exact date they go on sale maybe ill be able to catch one that isn't marked up due to miners on some non main stream store.



Been in stock for several hours...for $149. thumb.gif
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202096

We will see how long it lasts. Bet we see the 750Ti drop in price quickly if they stay in stock. Should be around $130 if you go by performance.
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GTX 750 TI won't drop much because Maxwell is much more power efficient and has people upgrading from 1 or 2 year old cards (unlike this which is targeting people that haven't upgraded from HD5000/HD6000/ GTX500 series)

The bigger news is that R7 260X is dropped in price , R7 260 fills the void of True Audio
Edited by AlphaC - 3/5/14 at 7:50pm
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How does Curacao compare to Pitcairn?
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It's essentially the same. Still GCN 1.0, still 20 CUs max.
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Well that's confusing!
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I have found the GTX 750 Ti for as little as € 131,79 here in Europe, so they are definitely doing some price adjustments, expecting the R265's launch.

The Sapphire’s R7 265 Dual-X posted above is already out of stock on Newegg. Let's see how prices go once they get more in stock and other brands release their models.

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How does Curacao compare to Pitcairn?

As far as I know it's exactly the same chip. Possibly a revision to use less power, but no official word on that.

I don't know why they would change the more technical name, it's not as if enthusiasts, the ones most likely to notice this under-the-hood name change, are going to think there is something new on a hardware level.

Die size, transistor count and feature specs are all the same. Faster clockspeeds and a BIOS with boost enabled is what officially differs, but those two things were first implemented on the HD 7970 Ghz Edition and they still called the chip the same, not to mention HD 7790 -> R7 260X is still called Bonaire, so those two changes wouldn't be a valid reason to do differently now.

Maybe a part of the mass market is now looking at these names too and they felt the need to do like they do with OEM GPUs ?

Did they tweak the memory controller to cope with the extra speed to warrant a different name? Without information, I'd just call it Pitcairn just like Anandtech ended up doing:
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Based on AMD’s venerable Pitcairn GPU, R7 265 will be filling this gap by bringing a variant of the Radeon HD 7850 back to the market, creating a 3rd tier Pitcairn product for the 200 series.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7754/the-amd-radeon-r7-265-r7-260-review-feat-sapphire-asus
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I have found the GTX 750 Ti for as little as € 131,79 here in Europe, so they are definitely doing some price adjustments, expecting the R265's launch.

The Sapphire’s R7 265 Dual-X posted above is already out of stock on Newegg. Let's see how prices go once they get more in stock and other brands release their models.
As far as I know it's exactly the same chip. Possibly a revision to use less power, but no official word on that.

I don't know why they would change the more technical name, it's not as if enthusiasts, the ones most likely to notice this under-the-hood name change, are going to think there is something new on a hardware level.

Die size, transistor count and feature specs are all the same. Faster clockspeeds and a BIOS with boost enabled is what officially differs, but those two things were first implemented on the HD 7970 Ghz Edition and they still called the chip the same, not to mention HD 7790 -> R7 260X is still called Bonaire, so those two changes wouldn't be a valid reason to do differently now.

Maybe a part of the mass market is now looking at these names too and they felt the need to do like they do with OEM GPUs ?

Did they tweak the memory controller to cope with the extra speed to warrant a different name? Without information, I'd just call it Pitcairn just like Anandtech ended up doing:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7754/the-amd-radeon-r7-265-r7-260-review-feat-sapphire-asus

Every review I have seen shows the 265 around 5% gains over 7850.
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they sold out in a matter of hours, missed the deal by the time i woke up in the morning : (

Im worried that next time they are in stock they wont be 150 anymore.
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