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post #1091 of 7141
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Originally Posted by Grennesa View Post

Hey Mariolillo, this looks great thanks for sharing.
I bought a EVGA graphics card with ACX cooler over the weekend. I'm interested in the PWM mod you did as this look like something that might benefit my system. Is that a mini GPU fan header to 2 4 pin Fan adapter in the pictures? How are you powering the ACX fans then? Do you know if there is any problem powering an extra two fans (i.e are you more likely to burn out the GPU header?)

I'm thinking about upgrading the fans in my case as well. Sounds like you've had some real success with those Prolimatech USV12. Just wondering if you had considered any other fans?

Ive currently got the NT06-Pro as a CPU cooler but it seems like going the one of these thermalabs CPU coolers with room for a fan above it is the way to go for both noise and cooling.
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Originally Posted by Jimhans1 View Post

If my memory is correct, the only thing the GPU fan header is doing is receiving the rpm signal and sending a pwm signal, the power is coming from a molex connector on the adapter. I could be mistaken, but I believe that's what his setup was!

You are correct Jim.

Grennesa, this cable right here, that one is on the ACX card.




This splitter is connected to the cable on the ACX, only receives PWM signal. Power is received from the PSU.

I haven't tested other fans, but I read a LOT about many fans before deciding on the USV12's. So far they are doing a great job. They cause vibration at near to max RPM, which causes noise, but nothing unbearable. I'm waiting for rubber mounts that I bought very cheap from eBay. If they stop that vibration, it will be another reason for them to stay lol. I ran them at full RPM unattached from the case and they are pretty silent.
As for their power, check it out, this video convinced me to try them.

As for the cooler, I can't fully recommend you the Thermolab cooler yet because I think I messed up the pre-applied thermal paste on my ITX30... or it is cheap. At idle is good, better than stock cooler, but at load it just gets too hot and very fast. I ordered Arctic Silver 5 and it should arrive tomorrow; if with the new paste it passes the test then I will fully recommend to you the LP53, it's the ITX30 but with more copper so it should be better. smile.gif
post #1092 of 7141
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Originally Posted by Jimhans1 View Post

I would look for quiet 3-pin fans and just let them run at their normal speed, personally. Or, depending on the wattage used per fan, do a 4-way splitter off of the CPU fan header, just don't exceed 12watt/1amp for the header.

Edit: I'm personally not a fan (sorry for the pun) of pwm fans or devices. I find the sound of them ramping up and down to be more distracting than just getting a quality quiet fan and running it at its full speed.
Does the Sys header only use voltage control, or just a limited PWM?

Since I'm aiming for quiet, I could just get super low rpm fans. But, if PWM worked, I could still set them to run at a fixed RPM, thus avoiding ramping up noise, right? This way at least I have the option to change the setting if I really needed to for extreme streaming/rendering or something.
Edited by OCPG - 4/22/14 at 6:21pm
post #1093 of 7141
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Originally Posted by OCPG View Post

Do you think the LP53 would be louder than AXP-100? I'm very interested in your comparison between NH-L12 vs AXP-100 noise level. smile.gif

Yes. that thing is meant for an i3.

Dont get me wrong, I really like what the NH-L12 does. What bugs me is the size of it, plus you have to lose the top fan. Im going on what Captain
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Originally Posted by Ght10 View Post

I thought my temps was good! I measured them with (real temp) min 32 max 53 after gaming for 30 mins. Corsair sp high performance fans are rated at 2100 rpm max they was running about 1650rpm. What I meant is that they are very noisy at any speed above 1000rpm. The Akasa AK-FN058 Apache Black Super Silent 120mm Fan run at 1300rpm max and are a lot quieter, also it didn't change the temps of the gpu
On the desktop it idle's about 32-36c after gaming it Max's about 53-55c. I'm very impressed with the cooler

Wow, nice work then, you might have found a gem in a cooler! Im going to be honest, I didnt quite believe you at first lol. (hey this is the internet after all wink.gif )

But I would still like to see it under a load test with real temp running. How did you get the fan to fit? How much did the Akasa AK run you? Im quite the Noctua "fan" myself but its great to have other options. How is the case oriented? (vert/horizontal)

Im still surprised...its gotta be the fact that its bare copper and not plated...what kind of compound did you use?
post #1094 of 7141
Ok folks this may be a game changer! I found a review online regarding this Thermolab LP53 cooler, and what I like about this review is that they said they did this test in a case and not on a workbench. And the numbers are amazing! And these guys basically said what i thought what was going on, the fact that its copper base to allow maximum heat transfer from the CPU to the fins. And the best part the install is minimal, only 4 little screws on the back of the MB.

The only con they came up with it North American Availability.

Credit where credit it due, great find @Ght10 You might have found the cooler to get!

And I humbly stand corrected, this cooler is rated for a TDP of 100W. Since most of us are running Haswell i5's this is a great match.

So what we need to determine is what is causing the noise from your case. Is it the fan on the heatsink itself or is it one of your case fans.

http://www.hitechlegion.com/reviews/cooling/heatsinks/38815-thermolab-lp53-cpu-cooler-review?showall=&limitstart=
post #1095 of 7141
So i re-ran a 15 minute load test, and I topped out at 60C for the CPU and 70 for the GPU....the noise level IMO was decent, being fainter than the PS3 was...mind you at this time of night, I didnt have anything else on to drown out the noise that I did hear, so during game or movie playback it should be fine, and only better once I get the Noctua Nf-sa's in there. The 70C on the GPU kinda bugs me tho...

While I think its an awesome cooler (nh-L12) and would probably kick some ass in a bigger case, In this config, I dont think its worth the extra premium considering you have to lose the top fan and use the 15MM one instead. 60C is decent and is over inflated considering the test and the fact I have it stuffed in a media cabinet. But if @CaptainZombie is managing 57C with a cooler that smaller and is half the cost, i think its a no brainner...

Speaking of which, @CaptainZombie were you able to run a longer load test with the AXP?
post #1096 of 7141
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Originally Posted by OCPG View Post

Does the Sys header only use voltage control, or just a limited PWM?

Since I'm aiming for quiet, I could just get super low rpm fans. But, if PWM worked, I could still set them to run at a fixed RPM, thus avoiding ramping up noise, right? This way at least I have the option to change the setting if I really needed to for extreme streaming/rendering or something.

Every fan header except the CPU fan is voltage controlled, unless you have the Asus M6I, where you can mirror the Opt CPU to the CPU header.
post #1097 of 7141
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Originally Posted by whoanelly View Post

So i re-ran a 15 minute load test, and I topped out at 60C for the CPU and 70 for the GPU....the noise level IMO was decent, being fainter than the PS3 was...mind you at this time of night, I didnt have anything else on to drown out the noise that I did hear, so during game or movie playback it should be fine, and only better once I get the Noctua Nf-sa's in there. The 70C on the GPU kinda bugs me tho...

While I think its an awesome cooler (nh-L12) and would probably kick some ass in a bigger case, In this config, I dont think its worth the extra premium considering you have to lose the top fan and use the 15MM one instead. 60C is decent and is over inflated considering the test and the fact I have it stuffed in a media cabinet. But if @CaptainZombie is managing 57C with a cooler that smaller and is half the cost, i think its a no brainner...

Speaking of which, @CaptainZombie were you able to run a longer load test with the AXP?

whoanelly, here are my results after running aida for 10 minutes.


post #1098 of 7141
looks good capt! CPU fan was spinning like a mofo @ 2800RPMs...

Did you see the posts about the Thermolab? That should fit your board with ease. I checked ebay, 61.99 with free shipping from Korea....that almost Noctua territory.
post #1099 of 7141
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Originally Posted by whoanelly View Post

looks good capt! CPU fan was spinning like a mofo @ 2800RPMs...

Did you see the posts about the Thermolab? That should fit your board with ease. I checked ebay, 61.99 with free shipping from Korea....that almost Noctua territory.

Yeah, the CPU fan was fairly loud

That Thermolab seems like a really great cooler. I have the H60 sitting here, so wish it was so easy to use with this case.
post #1100 of 7141
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Originally Posted by Jimhans1 View Post

Every fan header except the CPU fan is voltage controlled, unless you have the Asus M6I, where you can mirror the Opt CPU to the CPU header.
Thanks! So I assume when people plug a PWM fan in, it can still control it, but only via voltage? Could I control 3x 4-PIN (or 3-Pin) fans on a splitter via voltage? Is there any way to mirror control 3 fans off this damn thing? biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by whoanelly View Post

Ok folks this may be a game changer! I found a review online regarding this Thermolab LP53 cooler, and what I like about this review is that they said they did this test in a case and not on a workbench. And the numbers are amazing! And these guys basically said what i thought what was going on, the fact that its copper base to allow maximum heat transfer from the CPU to the fins. And the best part the install is minimal, only 4 little screws on the back of the MB.

The only con they came up with it North American Availability.

Credit where credit it due, great find @Ght10 You might have found the cooler to get!

And I humbly stand corrected, this cooler is rated for a TDP of 100W. Since most of us are running Haswell i5's this is a great match.

So what we need to determine is what is causing the noise from your case. Is it the fan on the heatsink itself or is it one of your case fans.

http://www.hitechlegion.com/reviews/cooling/heatsinks/38815-thermolab-lp53-cpu-cooler-review?showall=&limitstart=
That cooler was mentioned way back. I was wondering why you thought it was loud and weak. lol biggrin.gif The thing I like is you get to use 25mm case fan. If it gets too loud, I might try the Noctua NF-R8 PWM since it fits without modification. I bet that 120mm mod above isn't as efficient, just as the AXP-100 with larger fans performs worse. But I would prefer a good 120mm for noise.
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Originally Posted by Mariolillo View Post

As for the cooler, I can't fully recommend you the Thermolab cooler yet because I think I messed up the pre-applied thermal paste on my ITX30... or it is cheap. At idle is good, better than stock cooler, but at load it just gets too hot and very fast. I ordered Arctic Silver 5 and it should arrive tomorrow; if with the new paste it passes the test then I will fully recommend to you the LP53, it's the ITX30 but with more copper so it should be better. smile.gif
Did you try the stock fan? Why did you use 120mm?

Might want to check out a thermalpaste called: Tuniq TX-4
Edited by OCPG - 4/22/14 at 10:48pm
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