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You really worrying me mate :/ I'm going for 390 inside ml08... Maybe there is something wrong with the card/fans? I was expecting high 70 but 94? Also how did you found installing the card?

Hah sorry about that. It actually turned out that the reason my MSI 390 was so loud and hot was because it's actually too wide for the ML08 and it was causing one of the fans to not spin correctly. So, it was basically one fan trying to cool down the entire card.

Truthfully, I should have seen it coming since the MSI is a 2.5 or 2.2 slot wide card, if I recall correctly.

Luckily, Newegg allowed me to return the card and I'm going to try a thinner one. I'm seeing if the Sapphire 390 will be better.
Edited by lifeisabsurd - 10/18/15 at 1:14pm
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Hah sorry about that. It actually turned out that the reason my MSI 390 was so loud and hot was because it's actually too wide for the ML08 and it was causing one of the fans to not spin correctly. So, it was basically one fan trying to cool down the entire card.

Truthfully, I should have seen it coming since the MSI is a 2.5 or 2.2 slot wide card, if I recall correctly.

Luckily, Newegg allowed me to return the card and I'm going to try a thinner one. I'm seeing if the Sapphire 390 will be better.

See my posts, #4474, 4476, 4478 on this page (150)
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You are a mighty brave guy to cut that thing up. I would love to do something about additional venting on the top panel. Not sure why Silverstone only vented the one side and furthest from the gpu.
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See my posts, #4474, 4476, 4478 on this page (150)

That's reassuring! Thanks for that. Was this the Sapphire Nitro that has the blackpate?

Either way, it looks like it has enough space for both models. Now, my only concern is that I bought the non-windowed version and I wonder if the temps would be okay. I have to say, I don't understand why the non-windowed version doesn't have vents on top of the graphic card area for the panels. It seems like a small adjustment that would have allowed for the gpu to breathe more.
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It does as good a job that such a small case can do. I wouldn't run a highly overclocked CPU in the RVZ02. I have a Thermolab/Cooltek LP53 on order for my 4690k, since I'm currently using the stock HSF due to size limitations.

My 390 nitro under stock fan profile, while running Unigen Valley for 10 minutes using the Extreme HD profile peaks at 76C. VRMs are at 84C and 89C respectively. These temps are all safe and acceptable, especially given the space constraints such a powerful and high wattage card.

I had a reference 970 with an EVGA 980 Hybrid water cooler before, in a different case. Sold the 970 since I really liked the look of the 390 Nitro, and since the 390 slightly outperforms the 970. The Async compute performance on the AMD cards has shown to be superior so far for DX12, which was another factor. The 970 and 390 are basically sidegrades to another, but I wanted the Nitro. A 970 would have better temps in the RVZ02, but neither will be in unsafe territory.

An RVZ01 has far superior cooling options,such as the aforementioned fan mounts to help cool the GPU, and suppose for an AIO CPU cooler. But, the RBZ02 is sleeker, smaller, and in my opinion there's no contest which one looks better - the RVZ02.

Edit - Additonally, If you want to build in the RVZ02, you really should think out and plan your build around it. I went from,an NCASE M1, so I already had nearly everything I needed that would fit. If you're going to run a 390/390X with a K-sku Haswell/Devil's Canyon CPU, you'll want to be safe and run the Silverstone SX600-G. You could ok,with their 500-L SFX PSU if you went with an Nvidia card, or a 390/390X with a locked i5/i7 from either Haswell or Skylake.

I'm very pleased with my build, although I do plan to sell my 4690K and Maximus VII Impact as to go with a locked i5 Skylake CPU, for even lower thermals. Just plan ahead, ask as many questions as you want, and know it's a VERY easy case to build in. Cable management will not be an issue.

Hello,
Thank you for your extensive reply.

For the build, this is what I am planning.
H97 itx board
Xeon 1231 v3
16gb ddr3 1600 cl9
128gb 2.5 ssd

Now for the options and unknowns...
If I go for the rvz01, the cpu cover will be the nt06, and I'll add a 2tb 7200 rpm 3.5 drive.

If I go for the rvz02, the cooler will be the ar06 and one hgst 1tb 2.5 hdd.

For the GPU, I am thinking either a Zotac 970 amp core extreme or a sapphire 390x tri-x.

For the psu, I wanted the 500w sfx-l because it is half the price of the 600w version and has the 120mm fan.
But if I go for the amd card, guess I better go for the 600w. Even with the 970 it might be better to have the 600w to keep the upgrade path of the 980ti possible.

I just don't know...
This will be my first itx build.

Cheers and thanks
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Hello,
Thank you for your extensive reply.

For the build, this is what I am planning.
H97 itx board
Xeon 1231 v3
16gb ddr3 1600 cl9
128gb 2.5 ssd

Now for the options and unknowns...
If I go for the rvz01, the cpu cover will be the nt06, and I'll add a 2tb 7200 rpm 3.5 drive.

If I go for the rvz02, the cooler will be the ar06 and one hgst 1tb 2.5 hdd.

For the GPU, I am thinking either a Zotac 970 amp core extreme or a sapphire 390x tri-x.

For the psu, I wanted the 500w sfx-l because it is half the price of the 600w version and has the 120mm fan.
But if I go for the amd card, guess I better go for the 600w. Even with the 970 it might be better to have the 600w to keep the upgrade path of the 980ti possible.

I just don't know...
This will be my first itx build.

Cheers and thanks

The SX500-LG will be sufficient for either build path, provided you don't intend to overclock the 390x. The AR06 will keep the Xeon well cooled.

If you're planning to build soon, then I would not personally worry myself about upgrading to a 980Ti later. Pascal is set to release next year, so the 970 or 390/X will definitely hold you over until newer cards from AMD or Nvidia are released; both of which should be expected to have the same or lower power consumption of either of your picks.

Again, the Xeons not going to pull over 80W at any given time, and full system load even with the 390X won't break 500W, so long as you aren't overclocking it. Which, honestly, you should be aware you're already going to have higher-than-normal thermals compared to a standard open case like an ATX system, so overclocking might not be the wisest decision for this situaton. I'm leaving my 390 at stock 1040MHz speeds.

If you're gaming at 1440p or less, eithe card is a great pick. I went with the 390 Nitro because it has more than enough power for 1440p gaming. I'd actually prefered the SX500-LG myself, but already owned the SX600-G. If/when I sell my 4690K/M7I, I'll sell the PSU too and get one. Your build looks good either way you go.
Edited by adamlee05 - 10/18/15 at 3:19pm
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Originally Posted by lifeisabsurd View Post

That's reassuring! Thanks for that. Was this the Sapphire Nitro that has the blackpate?

Either way, it looks like it has enough space for both models. Now, my only concern is that I bought the non-windowed version and I wonder if the temps would be okay. I have to say, I don't understand why the non-windowed version doesn't have vents on top of the graphic card area for the panels. It seems like a small adjustment that would have allowed for the gpu to breathe more.

No problem. Yes, it's the model with the backplate. As far side panel ventilation, both windowed and non have vents on the top above the GPU. Not sure why anyone would tell you otherwise.
Edited by adamlee05 - 10/18/15 at 3:23pm
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Originally Posted by brawleyman View Post

You are a mighty brave guy to cut that thing up. I would love to do something about additional venting on the top panel. Not sure why Silverstone only vented the one side and furthest from the gpu.

Yeah i wonder what sort of cooling advantages could have been had they done the whole top as ventialtion vs just a few rows.
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Hey Guys,

Sorry for the long read. Need some help.

Specs
CPU: i7-4790k
Cooler: Scythe Big Shriuken 2 Rev.B
MB: MSI Z97i Gaming Ack
Ram: G.Skill Ares 2400mhz 16gb
GPU: MSI GTX970 Gaming
Fans: 3x Noctua redux 1200rpm 120mm (2 setup as intake with 1 of the gpu fans used as exhaust).
SDD/HDD: Samsung 850 Evo 500gb and WD Black 750gb 2.5"
PSU: Silverstone 600w

Just a question concerning cooling, I'm pretty anxious 9bit of an understatement) about this and hope you can help. It's going to be long because I want to include my computers history incase it leads to an answer. As I'm sure you all know, pulling apart the computers in these cases is a massive pain so I'm hoping someone can help me so I fingers crossed don't have to do it.

I have the ML07 with an i7-4790k with a Scythe Big Shriuken 2 Rev.B on it and a noctua redux 120mm PWM fan right above it as an intake (attached to the case lid). My question is about the operating temps, google isn't helping me. I reckon this thread is my best best.

Now I'm a bit concerned. When I first built the computer (April/May) I seem to remember my core temps were idling in the 30's with max load being around 50-60ish (HW Monitor). Now ambient temps were a bit cooler in the house then they are now (we are heading into Summer here in Australia now, earlier in the year it was Autumn/Winter). It's worth noting that I did have to swap over my Motherboard as I had a faulty one and I'm wondering if I tested when I first put it together and maybe this time I haven't seated the cooler on correctly when I swapped over to the replacement board though from what I can tell it seems fine. I did lose a rubber ring that came with the cooler that sat on directly on the top of the motherboard and acted as a washer when attaching the cooler to the MB however I used a spare piece of rubber that seems to have done the job well and I didn't see any pressure problems on the CPU, I only mention this as it might be the problem though I find it unlikely.

Reseating the CPU cooler is like a final option for me as it's such a chore in this case. I would even look at another cooler if necessary though I thought the Scythe was a good choice for the 4790k. I'm having trouble finding reviews on the Scythe with an i7-4790k to establish if these temps are acceptable though when I read up on the cooler it did seem like a good choice.

Fast forward and I just upgraded to Windows 10 (was running 8.1) before and I was stress testing my computer and checking all my programs to make sure they were working okay. When I check in HW monitor my idle temps are more like 50-60 and full CPU load is 80-85 (it hit's 90 before the CPU fan cranks up to 100% and lowers it back down). I have recently upgraded the motherboard bios as well to the latest version.

There are so many things running through my mind that could be wrong or maybe and this is the part that screws with me, maybe nothing is wrong? Since first building the computer I haven't monitored the temperatures since checking them the first time I built them. I was wondering if I should forget about those early numbers and maybe the software was reading it wrong or MB reporting it wrong. When I go into the motherboard BIOs it reports the temps at around 50.

Essentially I want to establish if these temps that I'm currently getting (50-60 idle, 80-85 load) are normal for my setup and I just leave it as it is. OR. The temps that I have stuck in my memory is what I should be getting and I need to start pulling it all apart and or searching for an issue.

Honestly, any input would be great.

EDIT: Just to add that all other temps are fine, GPU is great etc... Also just another quick note that I installed Speedfan and it reports my CPU temp as 127 degrees static regardless of what it's doing. HWmonitor seems to be the most accurate at the moment.

EDIT 2: I was thinking about switching over to a different CPU cooler and was considering the Silverstone NT-06Pro if I need to reseat the cooler. Though I'm unsure if this cooler is actually any better then my Scythe.

EDIT 3: Also when the processor hits those 80-85 degress it stops running at 4.4ghz (turbo boost which it usually does constantly) and starts running at 4.2ghz.
Edited by Randomstar - 10/18/15 at 9:03pm
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