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post #451 of 7096
Hello to all lucky RVZ01 owners smile.gif

I have a request, can anyone post some exterior pictures of the case without the front and side plastic parts/panel?

Thanks a lot!

greetz
Edited by cruxone - 3/17/14 at 11:10am
post #452 of 7096
Hello Raven RVZ01 owners,

Just assembled my new Raven RVZ01 with the following parts:

- Silverstone / RVZ01
- Silverstone / ST45SF-G
- Silverstone / SST-PP05-E
- MSI / MB Z87I GAMING AC
- Intel / i5-4670K
- Silverstone / NT06-Pro
- Crucial / 8GB DDR3 PC3-12800
- Silverstone / SOD02
- 2X Scythe / Slip Stream 120 mm Slim Case Fan
- Crucial M500 480GB SSD
- Western Digital Green 2TB HDD
- MSI GTX 770 Twin Frozr Gaming OC edition.

However I have some troubles with this graphicscard. I see lots unstability with the sytem when the NVIDIA driver is installed. Monitor goes black with no signal. I can see the system is still running. HDD led is still blinking. And it doesn't recover.
Googled on this problem and found a forum with a user whois discribing the same problem.:
http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/126070-graphics-card-problem-driver/

Tried several things to resolve this issue.

- BIOS update motherboard and graphic card.
- bought a adapter cable 2x Molex to PCI-E 8 Pin.
- tried differend NVIDIA driver versions.
- Clean install Windows 7 x64/ 8.1 x64 (installation SSD and HDD)
- unplugged DVD-rom and WD 2TB HDD.
- tried NVIDIA driver without installing Nvidia experience etc. graphics driver only.
- did not install MSI afterburner software ( read that this could cause system unstability with Windows 8.1)

It looks like the 450w PSU can't handle this graphicscard. Do you guys think this is true?

Could a underclock of this graphicscard be a answer?

Kind regards,

Tdelfin
post #453 of 7096
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Originally Posted by tdelfin View Post

Hello Raven RVZ01 owners,

Just assembled my new Raven RVZ01 with the following parts:

- Silverstone / RVZ01
- Silverstone / ST45SF-G
- Silverstone / SST-PP05-E
- MSI / MB Z87I GAMING AC
- Intel / i5-4670K
- Silverstone / NT06-Pro
- Crucial / 8GB DDR3 PC3-12800
- Silverstone / SOD02
- 2X Scythe / Slip Stream 120 mm Slim Case Fan
- Crucial M500 480GB SSD
- Western Digital Green 2TB HDD
- MSI GTX 770 Twin Frozr Gaming OC edition.

However I have some troubles with this graphicscard. I see lots unstability with the sytem when the NVIDIA driver is installed. Monitor goes black with no signal. I can see the system is still running. HDD led is still blinking. And it doesn't recover.
Googled on this problem and found a forum with a user whois discribing the same problem.:
http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/126070-graphics-card-problem-driver/

Tried several things to resolve this issue.

- BIOS update motherboard and graphic card.
- bought a adapter cable 2x Molex to PCI-E 8 Pin.
- tried differend NVIDIA driver versions.
- Clean install Windows 7 x64/ 8.1 x64 (installation SSD and HDD)
- unplugged DVD-rom and WD 2TB HDD.
- tried NVIDIA driver without installing Nvidia experience etc. graphics driver only.
- did not install MSI afterburner software ( read that this could cause system unstability with Windows 8.1)

It looks like the 450w PSU can't handle this graphicscard. Do you guys think this is true?

Could a underclock of this graphicscard be a answer?

Kind regards,

Tdelfin

It's not the psu, MSI and gigabyte have had horrible issues with their Gaming OC/Gigahertz edition cards not being stable out of the box because they were to ambitious with the clock frequencies and not putting enough stock voltage. If it was the psu, the WHOLE system would shut down due to no power/Over current protection. I've had that same psu pull over 550w before it shut down, and that was due to a heavy GPU OC. What your describing is what happens when a GPU OC is unstable for the GPU hardware, NOT the psu.

Personally, I say return the card and get either the standard MSI gaming if your set on using an MSI card, or, better yet, I'd say to get one of the EVGA ACX style cards.

The sfx 450G is a little beast of a PSU.
Edited by Jimhans1 - 3/17/14 at 1:29pm
post #454 of 7096
@Jimhans1,

Thank you for your quick answer.

Found it already strange because some onwers are using a GTX 780 without any problems

I will return the card to the shop and ask them to replace it with an EVGA ACX graphicscard.

Only one thing: they think it's not a fault of the graphicscard, but they say it's the PSU! Therefore they are gone charge me 15% restocking fee.

Question: If I will replace the graphicscard with a EVGA ACX one. Do you recomend a GTX 770 of be safe with a GTX 760?

Kind regards,

Tdelfin
post #455 of 7096
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Originally Posted by tdelfin View Post

@Jimhans1,

Thank you for your quick answer.

Found it already strange because some onwers are using a GTX 780 without any problems

I will return the card to the shop and ask them to replace it with an EVGA ACX graphicscard.

Only one thing: they think it's not a fault of the graphicscard, but they say it's the PSU! Therefore they are gone charge me 15% restocking fee.

Question: If I will replace the graphicscard with a EVGA ACX one. Do you recomend a GTX 770 of be safe with a GTX 760?

Kind regards,

Tdelfin
Folks have run that psu with 4770k's and titans, a 770 will be just fine. And don't let them push that 15% restocking fee, the card is at fault, not the psu. If it's a chain store like frys or micro center, talk to the manager, if push comes to shove, tell them it did the same thing with a "750" watt psu. wink.gif
post #456 of 7096
@Jimhans1,

It's a webshop here in the Netherlands.
I bought some other things there to. I hope they will have some courtesy.
I'll let you know how this ends.

Thanks for your help.

Tdelfin
post #457 of 7096
Quote:
Originally Posted by tdelfin View Post

@Jimhans1,

It's a webshop here in the Netherlands.
I bought some other things there to. I hope they will have some courtesy.
I'll let you know how this ends.

Thanks for your help.

Tdelfin

Ok thumb.gif
post #458 of 7096
Install said afterburner software. It will have no negative effect, it just gives you additional controls. Use the MSI afterburner software or the stock nVidia control panel to lower the clock speed, or both the clock speed and the voltage (but not only the power).

Generally, aftermarket cards that are "OC" editions are pulled from the higher quality bin which means a more stable GPU that operates with less voltage for a given frequency.

Personally, I have a Gigabyte Gigahertz Edition 780ti and I didn't even bother running it at full speed on my 450watt PSU (same one you have). I dropped the clocks to a little over stock and dropped the voltage 10% right off the bat. After the 600 watt PSU comes out I'll put it back.


Anyway, after you try this, post back in the forum with your results.
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post #459 of 7096
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Originally Posted by Gabriel5 View Post

Install said afterburner software. It will have no negative effect, it just gives you additional controls. Use the MSI afterburner software or the stock nVidia control panel to lower the clock speed, or both the clock speed and the voltage (but not only the power).

Generally, aftermarket cards that are "OC" editions are pulled from the higher quality bin which means a more stable GPU that operates with less voltage for a given frequency.

Personally, I have a Gigabyte Gigahertz Edition 780ti and I didn't even bother running it at full speed on my 450watt PSU (same one you have). I dropped the clocks to a little over stock and dropped the voltage 10% right off the bat. After the 600 watt PSU comes out I'll put it back.


Anyway, after you try this, post back in the forum with your results.

Actually, the only cards that are binned by the makers are the MSI lightnings, the EVGA Classified Kingpin Edition, and the Asus Matrix from last generation, and the galaxy Hall of Fame cards. All of the rest of the OC/superclock etc. are just regular cards that the maker has just bumped the clock speeds a bin or two. They are just hoping folks don't realize that the clock speed they are charging for is something that the end user can attain on their own for free. The reps for all of the previous companies have said as much. There is ZERO binning done on anything except the top of the line model. It would cost to much to bin them at that selling point.

IF the "OC/Gigahertz/SC" versions were actually binned, MSI and Gigabytes cards would work at the "stock" settings they were shipped with.
Edited by Jimhans1 - 3/17/14 at 10:18pm
post #460 of 7096
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Originally Posted by Jimhans1 View Post

Actually, the only cards that are binned by the makers are the MSI lightnings, the EVGA Classified Kingpin Edition, and the Asus Matrix from last generation, and the galaxy Hall of Fame cards. All of the rest of the OC/superclock etc. are just regular cards that the maker has just bumped the clock speeds a bin or two. They are just hoping folks don't realize that the clock speed they are charging for is something that the end user can attain on their own for free. The reps for all of the previous companies have said as much. There is ZERO binning done on anything except the top of the line model. It would cost to much to bin them at that selling point.

IF the "OC/Gigahertz/SC" versions were actually binned, MSI and Gigabytes cards would work at the "stock" settings they were shipped with.
Thanks for that great info Jim! Would you recommend I skip the EVGA Superlocked, and go for normal?
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