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Well Captain Zombie posted while I was typing, so there is my answer for that question! (thanks thumb.gif )
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Originally Posted by Mariolillo View Post

Really? The EVGA card has an exhaust in the back?

I assumed your EVGA was open cooler Jimhans1. Is it? Or is it the blower design from EVGA?

No blower, it's the ACX, but just like the blower, it does exhaust some air out the back of the case through the vents. It because of those vents that having positive air in this case is paramount, the extra air pressure helps force the hot air out of those and all the other vents in the case. Also, not running an AMD card is very helpful, and if you do run an AMD card it needs to be a blower style. They just generate to much heat for the tiny space.
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Originally Posted by whoanelly View Post

Ack, guys Im a little confused. I just ordered the Asus Geforce gtx 760. So Im going to move the one fan that above the CPU to the bottom of the case to accommodate either the NT06-Pro or a liquid cooled solution (havent decided yet) and didnt even think about the whole fan orientation part...with this style card should the 2 fans on the bottom of the case still be set to intake? I couldn't resist the deal I got on the Asus 760 (265 cdn)

Also, has there been a general consensus of which water cooled solution for the CPU fits best? (with least amount of kingage to the tubes?)

Last thing still consider i5 or i7, yes I know the HT doesn't apply yet, but with how much im going to drop on this build I want it to last a while.

thanks all!

Fans oriented on the case for intake along the video card as the fan on the card itself is an intake type as well.

With which water cooling setup to use, the biggest issue seems to stem with the tube type and how stiff it is. The Cooler Master Seidon tubes that I have are quite stiff, but as others have posted, is fully doable on the CPU side of the case. With coolers with soft tubing, kinking seems to occur. The other problem with using the radiator on the CPU side of the case is the thickness of the fan allowed, which may affect cooling performance.

With the decision of the i5 vs the i7, another thing to consider besides HT is that the i7 has more cache memory as well. However, with gaming the HT and extra cache doesn't seem to cause much of an improvement at all. Personally, if you plan on doing anything else besides just gaming and browsing the internet with the machine, I'd go with the i7 if you have the extra cash for it. You never know when you might get into things like video re-encoding or other processor intensive tasks.
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Originally Posted by Jimhans1 View Post

No blower, it's the ACX, but just like the blower, it does exhaust some air out the back of the case through the vents. It because of those vents that having positive air in this case is paramount, the extra air pressure helps force the hot air out of those and all the other vents in the case. Also, not running an AMD card is very helpful, and if you do run an AMD card it needs to be a blower style. They just generate to much heat for the tiny space.

I see, that's awesome. thumb.gif
Do you know if it's only possible because of EVGA ACX cooler or the other brands should also exhaust some of the air through the back?
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Originally Posted by Mariolillo View Post

I see, that's awesome. thumb.gif
Do you know if it's only possible because of EVGA ACX cooler or the other brands should also exhaust some of the air through the back?

It will work with any of them, including the blower style obviously. The more fans set as intakes on the case, the more air is forced out of every open vents in it, including the rear of the card.

Edit: Even in a case with zero fans, almost every video card, whether blower style or "ACX" open style will still vent air out the rear of the card as long as there is some type of opening on the I/O panel of the card....
Edited by Jimhans1 - 3/25/14 at 10:08pm
post #546 of 7096
I asked Silverstone and they said the 600W SFX PSU will be coming in august. They haven't started mass production yet.
post #547 of 7096
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Originally Posted by bloodroses75 View Post

Fans oriented on the case for intake along the video card as the fan on the card itself is an intake type as well.

With which water cooling setup to use, the biggest issue seems to stem with the tube type and how stiff it is. The Cooler Master Seidon tubes that I have are quite stiff, but as others have posted, is fully doable on the CPU side of the case. With coolers with soft tubing, kinking seems to occur. The other problem with using the radiator on the CPU side of the case is the thickness of the fan allowed, which may affect cooling performance.

With the decision of the i5 vs the i7, another thing to consider besides HT is that the i7 has more cache memory as well. However, with gaming the HT and extra cache doesn't seem to cause much of an improvement at all. Personally, if you plan on doing anything else besides just gaming and browsing the internet with the machine, I'd go with the i7 if you have the extra cash for it. You never know when you might get into things like video re-encoding or other processor intensive tasks.

Thanks for that. So Im not going to OC the chip I can then save on going with a Z87 MB and the K series Chip and put it towards the i7. That being said, is it even worth the hassle for water cooling? (or even the NT06-Pro for that matter do to its size) My main concern is noise with temp almost equally as important since its going in a media cabinet. (not behind glass doors, but still a "cozy" fit), but if Im not OC'ing then my guess is temp shouldn't be to much of an issue as long as I replace the dinky stock heat sink / fan. Im wondering if I should go with more of the traditional heat sink fan but a decent one (like a Zalman?), and add another case fan at the top vent for a total of 3.
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Originally Posted by whoanelly View Post

Thanks for that. So Im not going to OC the chip I can then save on going with a Z87 MB and the K series Chip and put it towards the i7. That being said, is it even worth the hassle for water cooling? (or even the NT06-Pro for that matter do to its size) My main concern is noise with temp almost equally as important since its going in a media cabinet. (not behind glass doors, but still a "cozy" fit), but if Im not OC'ing then my guess is temp shouldn't be to much of an issue as long as I replace the dinky stock heat sink / fan. Im wondering if I should go with more of the traditional heat sink fan but a decent one (like a Zalman?), and add another case fan at the top vent for a total of 3.

Honestly, if I was to rebuild the system again, I probably would have forgone the water cooling as the radiator fan can be just as noisy as one on a heat sink. The Zalman CNPS8900 would be my first choice; assuming it doesn't interfere with your RAM or PCI express slot on your motherboard. The Silverstone heatsink they recommend in the manual seems to be a popular choice as well.
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Originally Posted by NsLm1 View Post

I asked Silverstone and they said the 600W SFX PSU will be coming in august. They haven't started mass production yet.

That is what they are telling everyone at the moment. biggrin.gif ahem
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Originally Posted by bloodroses75 View Post

Honestly, if I was to rebuild the system again, I probably would have forgone the water cooling as the radiator fan can be just as noisy as one on a heat sink. The Zalman CNPS8900 would be my first choice; assuming it doesn't interfere with your RAM or PCI express slot on your motherboard. The Silverstone heatsink they recommend in the manual seems to be a popular choice as well.

Not using this case, but for the same reason (besides leak free environment) I've decided to get the NT06 PRO; it should be quieter and I'm not scared it will one day leak. But my H60 has been perfect for almost 4 years, is just time for a preventive upgrade. biggrin.gif
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