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Hi all, wow what a great thread.

I recently bought an Msi gtx1080 aero and my modified streacom fc10 couldn't handle the increased heat inside the case, which led me to the silverstone ftz01. I'm relatively happy with the case, main downside is it really should have an internal mount for a flirc receiver. Right now I have my flirc mounted behind the dvd slot.

My gtx1080 gets pretty hot though and clocks itself down to around 1708mhz while running 83c so I'm looking at water cooling to address this (although a different case would probably be cheaper)

Current setup
Intel i5 6600k
Noctua nh L12 heat sink with top fan removed (amazing hsf)
Asrock fatality z170 itx/ac
8gb ram
Msi gtx1080 aero oc
Internal flirc receiver
Corsair sf600 (tried both the silverstone 450 and 600w sfx psu and found the fan noise unbearable. The corsair is so much better)
3x prolimatech 120mm slim Pwm fans

Potential liquid cool setup I am looking at
I read about 200 pages of this thread in the past few days. It looks like a cpu+gpu water setup is pretty hard to make work in this case. Things aren't made easier by the fact that the 3.5" bay reservoir silverstone recommends seems to not exist anymore.

I took a lot of inspiration from these posts
http://www.overclock.net/t/1466816/silverstone-raven-rvz01-rvz02-ml07-ml08-ftz01-owners-club/3110#post_23493348
http://www.overclock.net/t/1575102/sff-build-msi-980-ti-lightning-liquid-cooling-silverstone-ftz01/10#post_24571645

After staring at those pictures and reading this thread I think this custom loop may work:
Reuse all components above as appropriate
Ek gtx1080 block - http://www.performance-pcs.com/ek-fc1080-gtx.html
Ek cool stream se 240 slim radiator - http://www.performance-pcs.com/ek-coolstream-se-240-slim-dual.html
Xspc ray storm cpu block - http://www.performance-pcs.com/xspc-raystorm-cpu-waterblock-v3-intel.html
Aquacomputer aqualis eco 100 reservoir - http://www.performance-pcs.com/aquacomputer-aqualis-eco-100-ml-g1-4.html
Alphacool liang ddc Pwm pump with alphacool plexi top - http://www.performance-pcs.com/alphacool-laing-ddc-pumpe-12v-ddc-1t-plus-pwm.html

I plan on mounting the reservoir the same as user insanity did in the post I linked above. With that pump top I should be able to create a downhill direct line from the res into the pump inlet with the case in horizontal orientation. Otherwise I am hoping to mostly follow the layout of the gtx 980 build.

The total cost is lookin like it will come out around 400-450, which isn't insignificant but the streacom fc10 (and smaller) and the ftz01 are the only cases I could find that look high enough quality to belong in my AV stand.

So, having never water cooled a pc before, am I crazy? smile.gif
Have you looked at the XSPC ION pump/res? http://www.xs-pc.com/water-pumps/ion-pumpreservoir
It's small and would save loads of room being a 2 in 1 (Res and pump) smile.gif
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Have you looked at the XSPC ION pump/res? http://www.xs-pc.com/water-pumps/ion-pumpreservoir
It's small and would save loads of room being a 2 in 1 (Res and pump) smile.gif
hey thanks for reading and for the suggestion. The ion is 153mm tall so definitely wouldn't fit in vertical orientation since the ftz01 is around 100mm tall.

Everything I've read online says that horizontal pump/res combo is asking for disaster. Most say that horiz res is a bad idea also but there is just so little room im this case.

The width and depth of the ion are great though at below 60mm. It's a shame they didn't make a shorter one.
post #6213 of 7141
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Originally Posted by ZodiacG66 View Post

Have you looked at the XSPC ION pump/res? http://www.xs-pc.com/water-pumps/ion-pumpreservoir
It's small and would save loads of room being a 2 in 1 (Res and pump) smile.gif
your post got me thinking again about combo components. I had spent tons of time looking at combo pump/res units without much looking encouraging.

However, a combo pump/block unit would free up the open space next to the psu for a small reservoir, mounted vertically.

Here's what I ordered
Ek gtx1080 block - http://www.performance-pcs.com/ek-fc1080-gtx.html
Ek cool stream se 240 slim radiator - http://www.performance-pcs.com/ek-coolstream-se-240-slim-dual.html
Swiftech APOGEE Drive II CPU Waterblock with Integrated Pump - http://www.performance-pcs.com/hot-swiftech-apogee-drive-ii-cpu-waterblock-with-integrated-pump-intel-1155-1366-version.html
Bitspower Water Tank Z-Multi 40 - http://www.performance-pcs.com/bitspower-water-tank-z-multi-40-full-clear-acrylic-version.html

If the single 240mm rad isn't enough for my 1080 and i5, I think I can fit a slim 120mm rad and slim fan above the cpu socket it I remove the heat sink from the pump/block unit, but I thought I'd try the simpler approach first.
Edited by jdoo - 7/6/16 at 1:18pm
post #6214 of 7141
Hey all,

Been reading this thread for a while and finally got my build assembled in an ML08B (with handle).

i5 6600K at 4.2GHz
Asus Z170I Pro
16GB Corsair LP 3000MHz DDR4
MSI 780 Ti Gaming
Big Shuriken 2
Corsair 450 watt PSU
Samsung 950 Pro 256GB
Sandisk Extreme Pro 480GB

Everything runs great. Max temps when gaming are mid 60s for the CPU and 75 for the 780 Ti, which is a factory OC open air design. I was worried it was going to run hot, but I think the secret to good temps is running with the filters off. I bought the case largely on the recommendation of Silent PC Review... they had great temps and acoustics on the windowed version, which doesn't have filters - I think their restrictiveness really impedes good airflow. With the filters off, you can easily feel how well the fans pull in air from outside while the hot air flows out above and below due to positive pressure.

And yes, you can run a power hungry graphics card and OCed CPU off a good 450 watt PSU.

Planning to swap out the 780 Ti for an EVGA ACX 980 when my friend upgrades his 980 for a 1080. Really looking forward to having the idle fan off feature of the 9xx. Also I'm going to swap out the stock Shuriken fan for the 140mm/15mm Prolimatech Vortex Sleek and see how that works (will report).

Many thanks to all who have contributed to this thread - it's so helpful and informative.
post #6215 of 7141
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. Also I'm going to swap out the stock Shuriken fan for the 140mm/15mm Prolimatech Vortex Sleek and see how that works (will report).

Many thanks to all who have contributed to this thread - it's so helpful and informative.

Have done that and it's a bit better but you will have trim the cooling fins, the 120mm scythe fans sits "in" the cooler and there are two raised edges that will need to be removed to fit the vortex correctly. I found it was better to put a full 25mm thick fan on the cooler and the slim fan on the side panel but because the fans are so close you do get more noise with the air turbulence between the fans.
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Hi all;

I want to build a rvz02 case and i have few questions.

-cpu will be i5 6500.its stock fan enough for cooling,if not whats your suggestion?

-Rx 480 nitro fits in the case?

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/sapphire-radeon-rx-480-nitro-oc-8192mb-gddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-37b-sp.html

-450 watt silverstone psu is enough for this cpu and graphics card?

-You use standard cables or use something like this for cabling?

https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-Technlogy-Flexible-Short-Modular/dp/B00H7Y3I4M?ie=UTF8&*Version*=1&*entries*=0

And finally which i must buy for better cooling? Rvz02 with filter or with window?
Edited by DarkPassenger - 7/7/16 at 3:53pm
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Originally Posted by DarkPassenger View Post

Hi all;

I want to build a rvz02 case and i have few questions.

-cpu will be i5 6500.its stock fan enough for cooling,if not whats your suggestion?

-Rx 480 nitro fits in the case?

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/sapphire-radeon-rx-480-nitro-oc-8192mb-gddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-37b-sp.html

-450 watt silverstone psu is enough for this cpu and graphics card?

-You use standard cables or use something like this for cabling?

https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-Technlogy-Flexible-Short-Modular/dp/B00H7Y3I4M?ie=UTF8&*Version*=1&*entries*=0
the i5 6500 will be fine with the stock cooler. If you put a fan in the mount directly above the cpu then the stock fan may not ever really spin up.

I would not recommend the silverstone 450 psu. The fan is always on and mine makes a very annoying noise. The silverstone 600 was not any better. I use the corsair sf600 now and it is much much better than either silverstone.

The 450w should be enough though.

Sorry, don't know about the rx480
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Thanx for answer.what about corsair sf450?

And i forgot to ask.is there a bag(hand or back) to carry rvz02 like its a laptop?smile.gif
Edited by DarkPassenger - 7/7/16 at 4:30pm
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Thanx for answer.what about corsair sf450?
should be fine. I ran i5 6600k and gtx970 off the silverstone 450 and both of those parts are higher power usage than what you are looking at.
post #6220 of 7141
It's been a little while since I was last on this thread (great thread BTW) and now I'm actually semi-seriously planning to replace my gaming desktop with an itx system. Sorry for not reading through the earlier posts to find more of this info (there's a lot of posts in this thread).

I'm planning on the FTZ-01B case, and I had a few questions on how things fit inside.

I want to use a 3.5" HDD, what space does it fit in and what considerations do I need to keep in mind when choosing other parts? Same thing for SFX vs SFX-L PSUs since I've had a hard time nailing down exactly what space gets filled up by the parts and what clearance issues I should be aware of.

My goal is to build a portable, fast, quiet, gaming PC with a lot of storage (this would be my primary PC). From everything I've seen so far on this thread, this is entirely possible with the FTZ-01B. I'm looking at a relatively high end (i7, nvidia gtx 1080) build.

I would like to avoid liquid cooling (less things to go wrong when moving it around), but would also like it to be effectively silent when doing light tasks (netflix), but not overly loud even when under load. I'm willing to undervolt/underclock the CPU/GPU to achieve this, I want fast real world performance but I don't care about setting any benchmark records.

For the motherboard, I want a solid Z170 board (for undervolting/underclocking) with a pcie 4x m.2 slot and a place to mount a high quality laptop wireless card. So far the Gigabyte GA-Z170N-Gaming 5 looks like it would meet these requirements, but I'm open to other options as well. Also, what specific board/cpu cooler/fan combinations tend to work well together (and which ones have clearance issues)? My main goal here is something quiet under load rather than absolute lowest temps.

For the GPU, which manufacturers tend to have the quietest coolers under load (that still fit without clearance issues) and still maintain reasonable temps for extended gaming sessions? Again, I have no problem with tweaking fan profiles and undervolting/underclocking the GPU a little if it makes a big difference in temps/noise. I would also like some tips on how case fans could help with this.

Will everything fit if I put in a SFX-L PSU, nvidia gtx 1080 gpu, 3.5" HDD, optical drive, and 2 2.5" drives? I'm looking at a ~600W psu, not because I need the full power, but because I want it to not have to work as hard under load (and thus be quieter).

Thanks in advance for any answers.
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