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It's been a little while since I was last on this thread (great thread BTW) and now I'm actually semi-seriously planning to replace my gaming desktop with an itx system. Sorry for not reading through the earlier posts to find more of this info (there's a lot of posts in this thread).

I'm planning on the FTZ-01B case, and I had a few questions on how things fit inside.

I want to use a 3.5" HDD, what space does it fit in and what considerations do I need to keep in mind when choosing other parts? Same thing for SFX vs SFX-L PSUs since I've had a hard time nailing down exactly what space gets filled up by the parts and what clearance issues I should be aware of.

My goal is to build a portable, fast, quiet, gaming PC with a lot of storage (this would be my primary PC). From everything I've seen so far on this thread, this is entirely possible with the FTZ-01B. I'm looking at a relatively high end (i7, nvidia gtx 1080) build.

I would like to avoid liquid cooling (less things to go wrong when moving it around), but would also like it to be effectively silent when doing light tasks (netflix), but not overly loud even when under load. I'm willing to undervolt/underclock the CPU/GPU to achieve this, I want fast real world performance but I don't care about setting any benchmark records.

For the motherboard, I want a solid Z170 board (for undervolting/underclocking) with a pcie 4x m.2 slot and a place to mount a high quality laptop wireless card. So far the Gigabyte GA-Z170N-Gaming 5 looks like it would meet these requirements, but I'm open to other options as well. Also, what specific board/cpu cooler/fan combinations tend to work well together (and which ones have clearance issues)? My main goal here is something quiet under load rather than absolute lowest temps.

For the GPU, which manufacturers tend to have the quietest coolers under load (that still fit without clearance issues) and still maintain reasonable temps for extended gaming sessions? Again, I have no problem with tweaking fan profiles and undervolting/underclocking the GPU a little if it makes a big difference in temps/noise. I would also like some tips on how case fans could help with this.

Will everything fit if I put in a SFX-L PSU, nvidia gtx 1080 gpu, 3.5" HDD, optical drive, and 2 2.5" drives? I'm looking at a ~600W psu, not because I need the full power, but because I want it to not have to work as hard under load (and thus be quieter).

Thanks in advance for any answers.

The 3.5" HDD sits on top of the power supply housing. From what I have read (still finalizing my components as much as possible, so I haven't worked with the case yet) the boards with WiFi built in and nothing obstructing the CPU cooler are best. Bear in mind the ~83mm total CPU cooler height, including the intake fan on the side, when choosing an air cooler. I'm currently working on a "cool as possible while still being powerful" build as well, you can see it in my last post. Not sure I'd recommend the board I listed, since it's expensive for the performance, and may cause problems with coolers.
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post #6242 of 7142
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Originally Posted by Jaraii View Post

That's outstanding Daxelth. I like the build, seems pretty solid. Your pictures actually answered one of my curiosities, as to whether or not the fans would be very visible through the filters on the sides. I'm glad I plan on putting in the black Noctuas. One of your components I had a curiosity about, the power supply. How is its fan noise when the system is under full load? I've heard mixed reviews on those. Also, do you have a picture of the other side when closed? I'm curious about the alignment of the intake fan grille over the CPU.


Thanks man biggrin.gif

About the power supply it is very quiet, on idle is dead silent, at full load isn't noiser than gpu fans... My opinion is a great power supply, i also have the silverstone sx600-g and there's nothing to do, the corsair is much better for noise and manufacture quality. So if you have to decide between corsair and silverstone, my opinion, go with corsair. thumb.gif

This is the picture, the allignment is not perfect but is'n a problem, i have great temps and the two fans are completely inaudible wink.gif

The much noiser component in my build is the western digital hard drive, believe me thumb.gif

post #6243 of 7142
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Originally Posted by gamer1000k View Post

It's been a little while since I was last on this thread (great thread BTW) and now I'm actually semi-seriously planning to replace my gaming desktop with an itx system. Sorry for not reading through the earlier posts to find more of this info (there's a lot of posts in this thread).

I'm planning on the FTZ-01B case, and I had a few questions on how things fit inside.

I want to use a 3.5" HDD, what space does it fit in and what considerations do I need to keep in mind when choosing other parts? Same thing for SFX vs SFX-L PSUs since I've had a hard time nailing down exactly what space gets filled up by the parts and what clearance issues I should be aware of.

My goal is to build a portable, fast, quiet, gaming PC with a lot of storage (this would be my primary PC). From everything I've seen so far on this thread, this is entirely possible with the FTZ-01B. I'm looking at a relatively high end (i7, nvidia gtx 1080) build.

I would like to avoid liquid cooling (less things to go wrong when moving it around), but would also like it to be effectively silent when doing light tasks (netflix), but not overly loud even when under load. I'm willing to undervolt/underclock the CPU/GPU to achieve this, I want fast real world performance but I don't care about setting any benchmark records.

For the motherboard, I want a solid Z170 board (for undervolting/underclocking) with a pcie 4x m.2 slot and a place to mount a high quality laptop wireless card. So far the Gigabyte GA-Z170N-Gaming 5 looks like it would meet these requirements, but I'm open to other options as well. Also, what specific board/cpu cooler/fan combinations tend to work well together (and which ones have clearance issues)? My main goal here is something quiet under load rather than absolute lowest temps.

For the GPU, which manufacturers tend to have the quietest coolers under load (that still fit without clearance issues) and still maintain reasonable temps for extended gaming sessions? Again, I have no problem with tweaking fan profiles and undervolting/underclocking the GPU a little if it makes a big difference in temps/noise. I would also like some tips on how case fans could help with this.

Will everything fit if I put in a SFX-L PSU, nvidia gtx 1080 gpu, 3.5" HDD, optical drive, and 2 2.5" drives? I'm looking at a ~600W psu, not because I need the full power, but because I want it to not have to work as hard under load (and thus be quieter).

Thanks in advance for any answers.

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Originally Posted by Jaraii View Post

The 3.5" HDD sits on top of the power supply housing. From what I have read (still finalizing my components as much as possible, so I haven't worked with the case yet) the boards with WiFi built in and nothing obstructing the CPU cooler are best. Bear in mind the ~83mm total CPU cooler height, including the intake fan on the side, when choosing an air cooler. I'm currently working on a "cool as possible while still being powerful" build as well, you can see it in my last post. Not sure I'd recommend the board I listed, since it's expensive for the performance, and may cause problems with coolers.

I'm with you guys. Going corsair 600 for quite and future. Not sure about the best cooling yet.
The asus Z170I has Wi-Fi.

Here are the builds I looked at to start. Minilake Skywalker is closest to what we are doing.
http://pcpartpicker.com/builds/#e=1176,1061

And Silent Pc Review ran sound and heat tests. Looking good.
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1469-page1.html

Really interested in seeing what you both end up doing for cooling.

Edit: Here is the manual for the FTZ01. I need to print it and take some notes. If I have time I will edit out all the non-english insturctions to slim it down and link it back here.
Edited by michaelsammler - 7/13/16 at 9:41pm
post #6244 of 7142
So, I got my Gigabyte G1 Gaming 1080 (so, non-reference cooler) installed in my ML08 and man, they run hot. I think I'm going to have to do the fan mod to exhaust some air. Anyone have the same experience with non-reference coolers?
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So, I got my Gigabyte G1 Gaming 1080 (so, non-reference cooler) installed in my ML08 and man, they run hot. I think I'm going to have to do the fan mod to exhaust some air. Anyone have the same experience with non-reference coolers?
Fan mod?
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Dougp:
Sadly, i have not gotten mine yet, since they're generally always sold out, and I won't be back home to the states for another month. On this note though, I think the Linus Tech Tips guys did a review on the new EVGA housing. It was on the 1070, but they both use the same cooler (and they all have basically the same performance between brands). Their main finding, as could be expected, was that performance was basically the same, but the aftermarket cooler was notably better for cooling during overclocking.

You have 2 120's blowing air into the card from the filters right? If so, what fans are they? I've heard a lot of fans don't do so well, unless they're static pressure optimized. This is why I'm going with the Noctua iPPC's.

Edit:
I just realized you said ML08, not ML07. Unfortunately, that case is pretty bad for GPU heat on higher end cards from what I've read. It's got decent airflow, but there's nothing making sure the hot air pushed around by the GPU doesn't just circulate inside the case back to the GPU intakes. I think the cooler cards, such as the new AMD one are more likely to be its style, or a blower style, since it pushes the hot air out of the case. Since you already have the case & card, your best bet is probably a more aggressive fan curve in the cards software. Modding a couple fans on might help, but I'd be worried about aesthetics & space.

Maybe someone here who has built with it, or the RVZ02 has suggestions?

Fischer707, the ML08/RVZ02 have no fan mounts, so in order to have fans you have to modify the case to mount them.
Edited by Jaraii - 7/15/16 at 1:06am
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post #6247 of 7142
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I'm with you guys. Going corsair 600 for quite and future. Not sure about the best cooling yet.
The asus Z170I has Wi-Fi.

Here are the builds I looked at to start. Minilake Skywalker is closest to what we are doing.
http://pcpartpicker.com/builds/#e=1176,1061

And Silent Pc Review ran sound and heat tests. Looking good.
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1469-page1.html

Really interested in seeing what you both end up doing for cooling.

Edit: Here is the manual for the FTZ01. I need to print it and take some notes. If I have time I will edit out all the non-english instructions to slim it down and link it back here.

I'm currently looking at a couple AIO liquid coolers. Won't put the build together until end of next month, but will post pics once i do. For the cooler, liquid ones have some challenges with the hoses in this case. See page 12 in this thread for a picture directly from Silverstone on how they recommend to mount AIO's in these cases. For air, there's a ton of well tested recommendations to be found by just randomly hopping around the thread.

I know it just came out, but has anyone built in the new RVZ01-E? It should be basically the same, but I'm wondering about interference from the larger PSU with Liquid coolers on the side panel.
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2TB Seagate 2.5" 7mm 240GB PNY SSD Water 3.0 Performer Win 10 Home 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
32" Vizio TV Razer blackwidow Silverstone Strider 600w Titanium Silverstone RVZ01-E 
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Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
2TB Seagate 2.5" 7mm 240GB PNY SSD Water 3.0 Performer Win 10 Home 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
32" Vizio TV Razer blackwidow Silverstone Strider 600w Titanium Silverstone RVZ01-E 
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post #6248 of 7142
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Originally Posted by Jaraii View Post


Fischer707, the ML08/RVZ02 have no fan mounts, so in order to have fans you have to modify the case to mount them.

Link to any builds with pics? Would love to see how they did it.
post #6249 of 7142
So I have some left over parts and want to stuff it in this case, but was wondering what cpu fan I should get for a x99 5820k setup in this case. Any ideas? I will not be overclocking.
Edited by cz1g - 7/15/16 at 12:53pm
post #6250 of 7142
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Originally Posted by Jaraii View Post

I'm currently looking at a couple AIO liquid coolers. Won't put the build together until end of next month, but will post pics once i do. For the cooler, liquid ones have some challenges with the hoses in this case. See page 12 in this thread for a picture directly from Silverstone on how they recommend to mount AIO's in these cases. For air, there's a ton of well tested recommendations to be found by just randomly hopping around the thread.

I know it just came out, but has anyone built in the new RVZ01-E? It should be basically the same, but I'm wondering about interference from the larger PSU with Liquid coolers on the side panel.

Liquid cooling is out for me since I move a lot. Sounds like a hassle, but my first build so maybe I am wrong.

The Noctuo L12 and the Big Shuriken 2 Rev. B seem to be the two most popular heatsinks. I think I am going with Noctuo cause it looks like it tests a bit better, and the top fan can be moved, so the case fan blows onto the cpu heatsinc from the top side and the extra fan might fit over the gpu since the case has three fan positions but only comes with two fans.

Forgot to link to the manual earlier. Oooops.
FTZ01
Edited out all the non english instructions so not as many pages, but not sure how to combine the new pdf yet. Should go from 40 some pages to about 20 or so. Hopefully I can get to it today.
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