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Holy cow guys...

so I still have this ASRock Z77E-ITX board... 2500k processor. Moved recently to a new place so I just finally found time to get my setup all hooked up. I'm on comcast cable. Had some internet issues, slow internet recently at my old place, download speed around 20mb up/5mb down with speedtest.net. Tested it this morning at my new place, decided instead of using wifi and the antenna, I'll go oldschool and used a ethernet connection with my 50ft ethernet cord. dang. 165mb up/20mb down... HUGE speed difference. Talk about 0 connection issues now... Couldn't believe how much a difference there is going to wired. Honestly I'm amazed! Anyone should try to go wired if they can. I previously though there wasn't much of a difference, boy was I wrong. And my router is good, the ASUS rt-n66u

ya. Wifi is cool and all but ethernet is full throttle. I bought an ethernet switch so everything can be cabled up. TV, NAS, Computer, receiver, wifi router. Steam downloads are a dream now. 5GHz wifi is no joke though. Wish my chromecast had it.
post #6262 of 7132
My third computer, and first one I will build (my other two being macbook and an iMac). So I might have 4 dumb questions right now.

1. With the FTZ01 case, the manual says, GPU width limit with card holder installed 131.6mm width, 68mm thick, 330mm length.

My friend just got a GTX 1070 ARMOR 8G OC which measures 140 x 37 x 279. So it would be too wide for the FTZ01 unless I did not use the card holder for my case? Is that safe?
And the 1070 thickness looks small. Is that without the fans? Just trying to get an idea of what to look for. I want a 1080, but if I do not go FE, which cards will work? Tried searching this forum for other 1080 users and this case, but did not see any.

2. The video card lines up with the back of the case so the DP and HDMI ports are accessible? I had assumed the GPU ports hooked up to the motherboard, and monitors hooked up to the mobo accessible ports. But realized today I would need two Display Ports. The mobo has one, but the GPU has three. So the mobo has a small gpu? For setting up BIOS or something? And everyone just uses the GPU Display ports, right?

3. Since I decided to sell my iMac (late 2012 still go for almost $1500 used) and get a 34" curved monitor. But I still need to do a lot of photoshop comic coloring. Which might change my intended gaming build a little. I already have windows 10, and I can switch both photoshop and Manga Studio 5 to windows, so I don't need any new software.

But would I need to reconsider any parts? Maybe RAM I guess? Not sure how much the motherboard effects art software...


CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L12 37.8 CFM CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Asus Z170I PRO GAMING Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard
Memory: G.Skill TridentZ Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory
Storage: Sandisk X400 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Founders Edition Video Card
Case: Silverstone FTZ01B Mini ITX Desktop Case
Power Supply: Corsair SF 600W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply
Optical Drive: Panasonic UJ-265 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer

4. To play 3D disks I need a 3D capable player? Or just software (which I have). I don't want to rip all my 3D movies, but I guess I could. Suggested players? I could always go external as well I guess.

Thanks for any advice.
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My third computer, and first one I will build (my other two being macbook and an iMac). So I might have 4 dumb questions right now.

1. With the FTZ01 case, the manual says, GPU width limit with card holder installed 131.6mm width, 68mm thick, 330mm length.

My friend just got a GTX 1070 ARMOR 8G OC which measures 140 x 37 x 279. So it would be too wide for the FTZ01 unless I did not use the card holder for my case? Is that safe?
And the 1070 thickness looks small. Is that without the fans? Just trying to get an idea of what to look for. I want a 1080, but if I do not go FE, which cards will work? Tried searching this forum for other 1080 users and this case, but did not see any.

2. The video card lines up with the back of the case so the DP and HDMI ports are accessible? I had assumed the GPU ports hooked up to the motherboard, and monitors hooked up to the mobo accessible ports. But realized today I would need two Display Ports. The mobo has one, but the GPU has three. So the mobo has a small gpu? For setting up BIOS or something? And everyone just uses the GPU Display ports, right?

3. Since I decided to sell my iMac (late 2012 still go for almost $1500 used) and get a 34" curved monitor. But I still need to do a lot of photoshop comic coloring. Which might change my intended gaming build a little. I already have windows 10, and I can switch both photoshop and Manga Studio 5 to windows, so I don't need any new software.

But would I need to reconsider any parts? Maybe RAM I guess? Not sure how much the motherboard effects art software...


CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L12 37.8 CFM CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Asus Z170I PRO GAMING Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard
Memory: G.Skill TridentZ Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory
Storage: Sandisk X400 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Founders Edition Video Card
Case: Silverstone FTZ01B Mini ITX Desktop Case
Power Supply: Corsair SF 600W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply
Optical Drive: Panasonic UJ-265 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer

4. To play 3D disks I need a 3D capable player? Or just software (which I have). I don't want to rip all my 3D movies, but I guess I could. Suggested players? I could always go external as well I guess.

Thanks for any advice.
CPU Cooler - Noctua NH-L12 won't fit unless you change the top 120mm fan for a thin (12/15mm) fan
Recommend the Scythe Big Shuriken 2 Rev. B, you can put a full 25mm thick fan on the cooler and a slim fan on the intake to make a really good cooling option
memory will need to be under 40mm in height to fit under most sff coolers unless its a 92mm fan cooler like the Argon AR06
The corsair PSU are very good but someone said the power connector is mounted in an odd way so it's hard to make the power lead reach it, you would need to look a few pages back as it's posted there.
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How much you guys think I could get for my ASUS GTX 970 Strix? I'm getting my replacement card tomorrow and the 1060 just dropped. Looks like a good 10-15% performance increase over the 970 and an additional +10% automatically with overclocking which is actually more around 15% given most reviews... I'd see about a 15-20% performance boost over an overclocked 970 and a reduction in power by 33%. With a 450w PSU that might be just what I need to be able to pick up a 6700k in the future too...
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I figured out how to mount a h55 and a full thickness fan into the RVZ01, thought I'd share as I've only seen it done with slim fans. You just have to mount the pump diagonally in the case so the fittings face towards the top left (or bottom right) bracket screw. This allows the hoses to lay down flat on both sides of the pump, no kinks and the side panel closes no problem. There is even enough space left between the pump and the fan that it may be possible to do push pull with slim fans.

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You're an absolute champion, managed to get an NF-F12 on a H55 in my new FTZ01 build thanks to you smile.gif
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I figured out how to mount a h55 and a full thickness fan into the RVZ01, thought I'd share as I've only seen it done with slim fans. You just have to mount the pump diagonally in the case so the fittings face towards the top left (or bottom right) bracket screw. This allows the hoses to lay down flat on both sides of the pump, no kinks and the side panel closes no problem. There is even enough space left between the pump and the fan that it may be possible to do push pull with slim fans.

crappy phone pics







You're an absolute champion, managed to get an NF-F12 on a H55 in my new build thanks to you smile.gif
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Subbed in a new video card, and my ML08B-H build is more or less complete. *NOW WITH PICS*

i5 6600K at 4.2GHz
Asus Z170I Pro
16GB Corsair LP 3000MHz DDR4
EVGA 1070 SC ACX 3.0
Scythe Big Shuriken 2
Corsair 450 watt PSU (seriously, why would you want more in this case?)
Samsung 950 Pro 256GB
Sandisk Extreme Pro 480GB

Everything runs beautifully. Max temps when gaming are high 50s for the CPU and 72 for the 1070... with GPU fans at 886 RPM... The machine is pretty much silent at idle, quieter than my previous Fractal XL-R2 + NH-D14 @5v system - though it's a touch louder under load. I have a Prolimatech 140x15mm Vortex fan in my possession but haven't tried to fit it yet - not too interested in clipping off fins on the Big Shuriken HSF to make it fit, but I may try to see if it'll go on without needing the dremel.

To those who are having heat issues with non-reference coolers, just take off those restrictive filters. Spray your case out with compressed air every couple of months and enjoy the temps and quiet.



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You're an absolute champion, managed to get an NF-F12 on a H55 in my new build thanks to you smile.gif

Cool thumb.gif The NF-F12 is old news for me, im ready to try the new corsair ML fan
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Cool thumb.gif The NF-F12 is old news for me, im ready to try the new corsair ML fan

That has piqued my interest. I don't think it'll be a good fit for my CPU rad, (seems like less SP than the NF-F12 iPPC 3000's, but would be outstanding for the GPU fans I think. Yes, I'm aware of the noise the industrial Noctuas can make, this is a performance build, not a silent one .
edit: See next post!
Edited by Jaraii - 7/20/16 at 10:12pm
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Surprised not to see anyone chime in on this since yesterday. I did some more research, and have found the following info comparing the Corsair and Noctua fans. These are the maximum stats:

Corsair ML120-Pro
  1. 2400 RPM
  2. 75 CFM
  3. 37 dB(A)
  4. 4.2 mm H₂O static pressure
  5. 0.225 A power draw

Noctua NF-F12 iPPC-2000 PWM
  1. 2000 RPM
  2. 71.7 CFM
  3. 29.7 dB(A)
  4. 3.94 mm H₂O static pressure
  5. 0.1 A power draw

Runs at slightly less output, with 20% less noise, and half the power draw.

Noctua NF-F12 iPPC-3000 PWM
  1. 3000 RPM
  2. 109.8 CFM
  3. 43.5 dB(A)
  4. 7.63 mm H₂O static pressure
  5. 0.3 A power draw

At full power surpasses every important trait at the cost of 15% more noise and 50% power increase.
On a curve, surpasses every single trait.

In Conclusion:
The Corsairs sound awesome, but they seem to fall short in every single category when compared to the Noctua 3000's on a fan curve, and the 2000's in some categories when full throttle. This is especially true in our little Raven cases, as the static pressure is immensely important for pulling air through the filters and creating the positive pressure needed to force air through our coolers and GPU's. Overall I think these fans have an outstanding potential when it comes to that mag-lev bearing design for reducing motor noise, but they need to step up their fan blade design to compete with Noctua.

This raises the question though, have you guys found any fans that beat these stats?
Edited by Jaraii - 7/20/16 at 10:17pm
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