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post #681 of 7091
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Originally Posted by whoanelly View Post

So it seems that the AXP is just below the NH-L12 by 2 degrees at stock clocks, but at over clocking it was on 13 degrees more than the NH-L12. This was the test I was referring to when you first mentioned the AXP-100, granted I quickly gazed at it. What I dont like about this sort of test is it looks like they are doing it with the MB out in the open. With our RVZ01, we could/would have the side/top 15MM fan mounted as intake blowing on top of the AXP. 59 degrees seemed a tad high but I guess these load tests are a little inflated in comparison a load of a game would be? and I would guess much lower during a HD movie stream/playback.

Toms hardware did a review of 8 low profile coolers. On that list the is the Zalaman CNPS8900 Quiet, NT06, NH-L12 and the AXP-200 (not sure how it differs from the 100) They rank the Zalaman best buy and it actually scores good temps. it measured 51 degrees overclocked at 4Ghz with a lower voltage. The NH-l12 clocked 49, axp-200 in the middle at 50. NT06 was 49 as well. They go on to talk RPM and noise levels (and the NT06 was loud) Tthe review is here:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/low-profile-heat-sink-mini-itx,3639.html

Someone on this thread did mention the Zalaman in their build...I was reading some reviews on newegg and it was mixed. Some people said it was quiet others loud and didn't cool well...but Im not so sure I would trust the average schmuck that posts there over Toms, they may not know what they are doing. I think the 15MM intake above the CPU should help too.

I think we can rule out the NT06 as we've seen people on this thread claim it was loud, and Toms review showed the DBs were real high albeit a good temp at 49.

Not sure how much different the AXP-100 is over the 200, assuming not much it seems that we have 3 decent Air Cooled options:
AXP-100/200 based on Toms Hardware review and the review you found on it on this site
NH-L12 minus the 25MM top fan but use the 15MM case fan we get in its place based on Legtoms review in actual action with this case (and Toms hardware review)
Zalaman CNPS8900 Quiet based on mentions on this thread and Toms Review.

Price goes to AXP followed by Zalaman and lastly NH-L12.

Still a tough choice...I cant seem to find the AXP in Canada but I kind of like it and would probably get it (gonna check ebay). The only thing turning me off the Zalaman is the fan (are these replaceable in the event of failure or do you buy a whole new kit?) Noctura is the premium, but does seem to perform well at the loss of the top 25MM fan. Would a 25MM fit under the GPU in this case, you could chuck it there...my OCD wouldn't like the fact there is 2 different fan types, but at least it wouldn't go to waste.

Capt, are you stuck with your MB or can you return?

whoanelly, yeah I am stuck with the mobo because some how I slighlty bent 1 pin on it so I know Microcenter would not allow returns on mobos with any bent pins. To sell it on ebay, I'd lose quite a bit on it. I think I'll just run with it for now since I didn't have plans to go to Haswell but who knows what the refresh will bring in a few months.

I did order the AXP-100 an hour ago off of Amazon for $49 with Amazon Prime. I should have that on Tuesday and then the case and PSU come on Wednesday from Newegg. I'll report back mid next week on how the AXP-100 does in this case.
post #682 of 7091
If I remember, you said you weren't gonna OC, so you should be good with that from the info we've gathered. I just another site's review stating that the Zalaman was loud under load...sheesh, just when you think you found an answer.
post #683 of 7091
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Originally Posted by Doomtomb View Post

My current build:

[CASE] Lian-Li PC-A04B bought in 2011
[POWER SUPPLY] Antec NeoECO 620W bought in 2011
[MOTHERBOARD] Gigabyte H57 mATX LGA 1156 bought in 2011
[CPU] Intel Core i7-875K 2.93 GHz (Lynnfield) bought in 2012
[COOLER] Thermalright TRUE Spirit 120M bought in 2013
[RAM] 8GB (2x) 2x2GB G.Skill Eco DDR3 1600MHz 7-8-7-24 bought in 2011
[SSD] Samsung 470 Series 120GB SATA 2 bought in 2011
[HDD] Samsung Spinpoint F1 1TB bought in 2008
[GPU] EVGA GTX 670 2GB Kepler bought in 2013

This is my old rig, started as an HTPC but quickly transformed into a gaming rig as my needs changed. Upgraded the CPU, GPU, and cooler most recently. Had a sort of Eco sub-theme going.

My new build would be something like this:
[CASE] Silverstone RVZ01 or ML07
[POWER SUPPLY] Silverstone SFX 600W (when it's released)
[MOTHERBOARD] ASRock Z97 Mini-ITX (when it's released)
[CPU] Intel Core i5-4690K Haswell "refresh" (when it's released)
[COOLER] Thermalright AXP-100 Muscle (stock seems to have replenished dropping the price quite a bit)
[RAM] 16GB (2x8GB) Crucial Ballistix VLP (I love the super lower profile memory, and I do need additional capacity)
[SSD] 500GB Samsung 840 EVO (now as little as $0.50 a GB)
[GPU] Nvidia Maxwell 3+GB (when it's released)

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From all that, I want so bad Silverstone releases the 600W already to play with some GPU overclocking tongue.gif
post #684 of 7091
I was able to found something on the Zalman, Italian review and English review

It's good, but given the harder installation procedure and the price, it may not be the best option. If someone wants to get it, do please post back results biggrin.gif

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Originally Posted by whoanelly View Post

If I remember, you said you weren't gonna OC, so you should be good with that from the info we've gathered. I just another site's review stating that the Zalaman was loud under load...sheesh, just when you think you found an answer.

I think we can narrow it down a bit.

AXP-100 which is great and has excellent reviews in many places, plus a good price point.
ITX30 which is full copper and a little more silent than the AXP-100, but with a 80mm fan instead of 100mm fan. Anyway all the copper helps.
NH-L12 which Legtom reported here with great temps, but it is on the pricey side. The difference between this setup and the AXP-100 or ITX30 should be a variation of 4c max, which (at least for me) is a good tradeoff. With the money I didn't spend on the NH-L12 I could get a Prolimatech USV12.

Legtom, if you want to do the test, the Prolimatech USV12 has been reviewed as a powerful 15mm fan, the manufacturer showcases it on heatsinks. So maybe that fan on top of your NH-L12 could give you even better temps. If that's the case, even I might save a bit... hehe.

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Originally Posted by CaptainZombie View Post

I did order the AXP-100 an hour ago off of Amazon for $49 with Amazon Prime. I should have that on Tuesday and then the case and PSU come on Wednesday from Newegg. I'll report back mid next week on how the AXP-100 does in this case.

Capt, if you feel comfortable buying this kind of hardware from eBay, check it out, I saw it at 36.99. I bet you still can cancel that order from Amazon wink.gif
post #685 of 7091
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Originally Posted by Legtom View Post

Today i test my i5 4570 in AIDA, one i can say nh-12 92+120(15MM) after 30 min and 100% stres is very good score:

CPU 48C fan 920rpm (silent)

This is testing table i use this before i buy NH-L12

http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1317-page5.html

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Originally Posted by RDilux View Post

I can ensure you he is telling the truth i got also the nh-12
What motherboard are you guys using? I want to use the NH-L12 with ASRock Z87E-ITX. Thanks! biggrin.gif
post #686 of 7091
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Originally Posted by OCPG View Post


What motherboard are you guys using? I want to use the NH-L12 with ASRock Z87E-ITX. Thanks! biggrin.gif

That board is SOLID! I have it and I don't regret getting it.
Only complain, CPU 8-pin placement, almost right in the middle. You can remediate it with proper cable management.

Everything else is great, plus it has the Broadcom AC Wi-Fi adapter, it costs ~$60 by itself wink.gif
post #687 of 7091
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Originally Posted by Mariolillo View Post

I was able to found something on the Zalman, Italian review and English review

It's good, but given the harder installation procedure and the price, it may not be the best option. If someone wants to get it, do please post back results biggrin.gif
I think we can narrow it down a bit.

AXP-100 which is great and has excellent reviews in many places, plus a good price point.
ITX30 which is full copper and a little more silent than the AXP-100, but with a 80mm fan instead of 100mm fan. Anyway all the copper helps.
NH-L12 which Legtom reported here with great temps, but it is on the pricey side. The difference between this setup and the AXP-100 or ITX30 should be a variation of 4c max, which (at least for me) is a good tradeoff. With the money I didn't spend on the NH-L12 I could get a Prolimatech USV12.

Legtom, if you want to do the test, the Prolimatech USV12 has been reviewed as a powerful 15mm fan, the manufacturer showcases it on heatsinks. So maybe that fan on top of your NH-L12 could give you even better temps. If that's the case, even I might save a bit... hehe.
Capt, if you feel comfortable buying this kind of hardware from eBay, check it out, I saw it at 36.99. I bet you still can cancel that order from Amazon wink.gif

Not impressed with the ITX30. Same issue with the GeminII, you have to mount it from the back of the MB, which means you would need to take the whole thing out. Plus according to this review, the numbers are all that great to go through that trouble:

http://www.ocaholic.ch/modules/smartsection/item.php?page=3&itemid=1248

I think AXP-100 and NH-L12 for sure are safe bets, one being cheaper than the other. We just need to get a Zalaman owner here to offer their opinion.
post #688 of 7091
I just saw this video of the axp-100 muscle...not sure if its me being paranoid but the way this guy mounted it, would look like it would hit the PSU:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6wTUFhL7rU
post #689 of 7091
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Originally Posted by Mariolillo View Post

That board is SOLID! I have it and I don't regret getting it.
Only complain, CPU 8-pin placement, almost right in the middle. You can remediate it with proper cable management.

Everything else is great, plus it has the Broadcom AC Wi-Fi adapter, it costs ~$60 by itself wink.gif
Thanks bro! Wasn't sure if I should go ASUS ROG Impact, but since I'm not OC'ing, don't think I need it. I'll have to run fan splitter to run 2 fans on each header. I hear about how great ASUS fan Xpert control is, how's the fan PWM control? Really want this build to be as quiet as possible.

Man this CPU cooler **** is very frustrating. Many different reports from reviewers. The video posted a few pages back made the AXP-100 sound kinda loud compared to NH-L12, but yet I see reviews placing them very close and saying the AXP-100 is near silent. AS long as inside the case it is near silent while idle under PWM control, I'll be fine. I just don't want noise during normal operation.
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Originally Posted by whoanelly View Post

We just need to get a Zalaman owner here to offer their opinion.
I hear the problem with the Zalaman is you have to mount it a certain direction for it to be effective. But reports are it won't fit that way on most MB's/Cases? Not sure.
Edited by OCPG - 3/28/14 at 11:39pm
post #690 of 7091
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Originally Posted by OCPG View Post

Thanks bro! Wasn't sure if I should go ASUS ROG Impact, but since I'm not OC'ing, don't think I need it. I'll have to run fan splitter to run 2 fans on each header. I hear about how great ASUS fan Xpert control is, how's the fan PWM control? Really want this build to be as quiet as possible.

Man this CPU cooler **** is very frustrating. Many different reports from reviewers. The video posted a few pages back made the AXP-100 sound kinda loud compared to NH-L12, but yet I see reviews placing them very close and saying the AXP-100 is near silent. AS long as inside the case it is near silent while idle under PWM control, I'll be fine. I just don't want noise during normal operation.

Under normal operation it will be fine, any of the coolers that has been mentioned here will be. Under stress is the trick, which will do best noise/temps while controlled with PWM.

About the board, check out this review.
The reviewer praises the great fan control on the firmware that ASRock implemented. I used it and it's really neat, plus if you download the windows application it's even easier to set your custom fan curve tongue.gif

And yes, I know it's frustrating. This has been the most difficult part for me to decide, coolers and fans. With enough reading in two weeks, I knew which combination of MOBO, RAM, CPU and PSU I needed, but proper cooling has taken way longer lol.
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