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1. I understand open-air cooled GPUs are preferable over blowers in this case, but is a certain number of fans on the card better than other choices? For example, would a card with triple fans be better than dual because more air is being pushed out, or does it not matter? Or would a card that runs a little warmer actually be a good thing, since we need the warm air to rise and exit the case? I understand we're working with a positive air pressure here, but I'm still new to all this so I have only a basic grasp atm.

1a. Also, I notice some GPUs have fan socket on them, so you can connect the case fans directly to them and (I assume) have the two run in tandem. Again, is this a good/necessary/desirable thing with this case and cooling design, or perhaps doesn't matter so much?

2. For GPUs with lighting on, do you find them visible in the RVZ01, vertically oriented, behind the case fans? The magpie in me is tempted by pretty glowy GPUs, oooh...*o*

1. The amount of fans is not always telling of cooling performance, as a big part of it comes down to the heatsink design. As I said earlier, I have a theory that a card with vertical heatfins is better at pushing the air out of the case than one with horizontal fins. However, a bad cooling solution with vertical fins, is still worse than a good heatsink with horizontal fins.

1a. in normal tower cases, I don't think those extra fan headers is really usable. But in a case like the RVZ01, where there is a compartment for the CPU and one for the GPU, it is golden. It's also partly why I wish I had chosen the Asus Strix card. If you don't have the fan headers that react on GPU temp, you are kinda stuck on relying on either the CPU temp to automatically control the fans, and since the case is in two parts, that is a bad solution.

2. It's pretty visible, but not really if the side with the GPU is facing the wall wink.gif
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1. The amount of fans is not always telling of cooling performance, as a big part of it comes down to the heatsink design. As I said earlier, I have a theory that a card with vertical heatfins is better at pushing the air out of the case than one with horizontal fins. However, a bad cooling solution with vertical fins, is still worse than a good heatsink with horizontal fins.

1a. in normal tower cases, I don't think those extra fan headers is really usable. But in a case like the RVZ01, where there is a compartment for the CPU and one for the GPU, it is golden. It's also partly why I wish I had chosen the Asus Strix card. If you don't have the fan headers that react on GPU temp, you are kinda stuck on relying on either the CPU temp to automatically control the fans, and since the case is in two parts, that is a bad solution.

2. It's pretty visible, but not really if the side with the GPU is facing the wall wink.gif

Honestly at that point I'd just get a temperature sensor and make a little pwm fan controller that changes based on temp, and have a bypass switch with a pot to control the fan speed manually.

But that's a lot of work and part of the reason I didn't go with this style of case even though I love how the look, the other part is the limit height for CPU coolers.
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Hey guys,

I am offering to sell my modified side panel to the Silverstone ML-08B. You can see it below, I have 3 80mm slim fans with an independent switch to turn them on/off. All you need is a single fan header to power them (preferably directly from your PSU). I am offering to sell in the hopes it will help someone out who wants to use this case with high end parts but don't want to worry about temps. For $50 + shipping I will include the modified side panel as well as an additional unaltered side panel and handle for free. Send me an email at protools1983@yahoo.com if you're interested.




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1. The amount of fans is not always telling of cooling performance, as a big part of it comes down to the heatsink design. As I said earlier, I have a theory that a card with vertical heatfins is better at pushing the air out of the case than one with horizontal fins. However, a bad cooling solution with vertical fins, is still worse than a good heatsink with horizontal fins.

1a. in normal tower cases, I don't think those extra fan headers is really usable. But in a case like the RVZ01, where there is a compartment for the CPU and one for the GPU, it is golden. It's also partly why I wish I had chosen the Asus Strix card. If you don't have the fan headers that react on GPU temp, you are kinda stuck on relying on either the CPU temp to automatically control the fans, and since the case is in two parts, that is a bad solution.

2. It's pretty visible, but not really if the side with the GPU is facing the wall wink.gif

1. Thanks for another response Broadmonkey! I was thinking in terms of moving the air out of the case with my question about GPU fans but on reading it again, I really didn't phrase it very well, oops tongue.gif I just wondered if more GPU fans would help air move out of the case better, since this is a positive pressure design?

1a. I've got my eye on the Strix [translation: I've got it real bad for the Strix and am itching to pull the trigger on that one, hnnnggghh] so that's great to hear!

2. Oh, you are such a wit wink.gif

Just ordered my first few bits; case, HDD and SATA adapter for the slim ODD and am now starting to get REALLY excited and REALLY nervous, haha. Got the week after next off work, so I have plenty of time to dedicate to building and setting up...can't wait! biggrin.gif
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I am looking to drop back down to mini itx and use a Silverstone RVZ01-E. What kind of 120mm AIO cpu coolers will fit in this case?, i would obviously want to go this route over an low profile cpu cooler if possible.

http://www.silverstonetek.com/raven/products/index.php?model=RVZ01-E&area=en
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I was so very tired of the case feet of the RVZ02, as while it did a good job of keeping it from toppling, it allowed the case to slide back and forth whenever I have to plug or unplug USBs.

So I decided to make a wooden base for it. I used a router to hollow out the side of the wood where the bottom vents go out, so that it doesn't block anything. The base is about 3/4ths of an inch in height, and connects to the bottom of the case via the screw cutouts already present in the panel. There's a metallic lip of sorts that looks similar to where the handle would attach to the top. I drilled through that and used a 3mm tap to create the necessary thread for the screws to go through.

Note that in the RVZ02, the power and reset buttons and wires are down there, great care must be taken to avoid damaging the wires.

With the base attached, I needed nothing more but its own weight (not even rubber pads, which I had planned to add!) to keep steady even when plugging in or removing USB drives. It also frees the lower air filter for easier removal (with the case feet, you had to remove the entire thing because the filter is blocked).

Why not just stick the included rubber feet on the bottom? Because I don't want to make major, permanent changes to the outside panels, and because I like to overly complicate things.

Also because it probably won't be as stable.





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It is kinda off-topic but I thought I would pay homage to my old RVZ01, which I liked a lot. So I decided to build one from scratch.

It is smaller, 35x35x10cm (12.25L) only. Also a whole lot lighter. The build with all the components inside weights the same as the RVZ01 case only (~3.8kg). I tried to squeeze in a 5.25 ODD, but it was just too close to the GPU.





Need some additional polish around the bolts and some paint, but I think it worked out pretty well biggrin.gif.
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I am looking to drop back down to mini itx and use a Silverstone RVZ01-E. What kind of 120mm AIO cpu coolers will fit in this case?, i would obviously want to go this route over an low profile cpu cooler if possible.
http://www.silverstonetek.com/raven/products/index.php?model=RVZ01-E&area=en

I used a Deepcool Maelstrom 120T for my 6600k@4.5ghz, average cooler but it would fit without issues where the hose connect to rad, i had the hose safely bend like a U shape
I had to use the thin fan provided for intake, fan pulling air in between cpu and radiator.
Its similar diamensions to the silverstone one advertised for the case.

Deep cool
Radiator 22mm
Pump 31.5mm
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I used a Deepcool Maelstrom 120T for my 6600k@4.5ghz, average cooler but it would fit without issues where the hose connect to rad, i had the hose safely bend like a U shape
I had to use the thin fan provided for intake, fan pulling air in between cpu and radiator.
Its similar diamensions to the silverstone one advertised for the case.

Deep cool
Radiator 22mm
Pump 31.5mm

I ended up ordering a Cryorig C1 but thanks for the advice.
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Good afternoon,
After about two weeks of searching, i concluded to the following mini-ITX system:

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz
CPU Cooler: Cryorig C1
MOBO: Gigabyte GA-H170N-WIFI
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB DDR4-2133MHz
GPU: Nvidia GeForce GTX 1060 6GB
PSU: Corsair SF450 450W
Storage: 2x 120GB Samsung 850 Evo SSD + 1x WD 500GB
CASE: Silverstone RVZ01

I am mainly posting this thread to make sure that there are no incopabilities. I tried my best to avoid them, but there is always a margin of error with the mini-ITX systems.
Silence is important for this built. It is not my top priority (performance is) but its still fairly important. That's why even though the case has 3x120mm fan slots, i intend to install none. Two of the case fans are located at the GPU compartment and they blow air directly to the GPU fans. That's why i think i can go without them, the GPU is fairly close to the openings, and i believe it wll be able to take enough air from the outside. The third fan is located just above from where the CPU heatsink will be, that's why i chose to go with the Cryorig C1 CPU cooler. It's wide enough to cool most of the motherboard and the RAM sticks, and it will also be fairly close to the opening to breathe from the outside. I am not sure if this setup will work. This is my first mini-ITX build and i really do not want to make any silly mistakes! That's why i am asking for help after all.
Also you can see that i am not sure about the exact model of the GPU. I am leaning towards a blower style GPU (propably the ASUS Turbo 6GB or the EVGA equivalent), in order to minimize the temperatures of the rest of the system. But since i will not be installing the case fans, maybe i should go with a model that is open air? I am not really sure.
I am open to any recommendations regarding the parts listed above!
My budget is at 1.000euros, and i already got above it by a small margin... (even though i already own the SSDs and the HDD, so they are not calculated towards the final cost)

Thanks in advance!
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