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If you don't want case fans then get the RVZ02?! Case fans may help make it quieter overall though.

Open air cooler gpu recommended over blower, check reviews / forums to see which brands cooler is rated as the best. Worth comparing if an RX 480/580 is cheaper as performance more or less same as 1060.
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If you don't want case fans then get the RVZ02?! Case fans may help make it quieter overall though.

Open air cooler gpu recommended over blower, check reviews / forums to see which brands cooler is rated as the best. Worth comparing if an RX 480/580 is cheaper as performance more or less same as 1060.

Thanks for the reply!
Well I checked the RVZ02, and countless other cases as well, I just really like how the RVZ01 looks, so yeah I will be definitely going with the particular case. I just asked if I could go without the fans! It doesn't meen I will do so, I will install them if necessary but I am not in a position to know right now if a GPU will be able to draw it's own air from the outside?
About the GPU, I will be definetely avoiding the RX 500 series. From what I read they are quiet less efficient than their predecessors to achieve higher speeds. And because my current rig is completely AMD and it failed my completely, I want to go Intel/Nvidia this time. Maybe by the time I raise enough money for the GPU (because I will be buying them in parts, with the GPU last) the GTX 2060 is released. I will check it out then.
If open air is recommended, I will have a look then at them. I just though blower would be more appropriate! Thanks again!
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The Node 202 is a nice option if you don't want any case fans.

Blower style coolers are noisier and run hotter than open air. There's no advantage to their heat exhaustion in the Z01 because the GPU is in a separate compartment. Also a blower would draw air in, but not open air. Case fans with an open air should let your GPU run cooler and hence quieter overall. I went for be quiet! Silent Wings 3's to keep noise to a minimum.
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Ok, since you guys suggested an open air GPU for the RVZ01 here are the GPUs that i find to be the most appropriate. Does anyone have any experiences with this cards? Where i live the EVGA is too damn expensive, so i lean towards the GALAX or the PALIT one. I would like to know though which cooler would perform quieter and better. Does anyone have any experiences?

PALIT GeForce GTX 1060 Dual 6GB (2 fans, no backplate)
Core: 1708/1506Mhz
Memory: 2002Mhz
Bandwidth: 192.2 GB/s
Power Connector: 6-pin

GALAX GeForce GTX 1060 EXOC 6GB (2 fans, has backplate)
Core: 1759/1544Mhz
Memory: 2002Mhz
Bandwidth: 192.2 GB/s
Power Connector: 6-pin

EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 FTW+ Gaming ACX3.0 6GB (2fans, no backplate)
Core: 1860/1632Mhz
Memory: 2002Mhz
Bandwidth: 192.2 GB/s
Power Connector: 8-pin

Also the Silent Wings 3's seem to be a nice case fan option indeed. Would you recommend installing two fans at the GPU compartment or just one? And with a CPU cooler like the Cryorig C1 or the Shadow rock LP the CPU case fan should be left empty?

Thanks in advance!
Hector
Edited by general molotof - 4/30/17 at 5:06am
post #6855 of 6940
What about the scythe slip streams? The slip stream 800 rpm slim one in particular? From what I read they are nearly silent, and at an affordable price! Would I need more airflow?
Thanks!
Edited by general molotof - 4/30/17 at 7:18am
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Thanks for the reply!
Well I checked the RVZ02, and countless other cases as well, I just really like how the RVZ01 looks, so yeah I will be definitely going with the particular case. I just asked if I could go without the fans! It doesn't meen I will do so, I will install them if necessary but I am not in a position to know right now if a GPU will be able to draw it's own air from the outside?
About the GPU, I will be definitely avoiding the RX 500 series. From what I read they are quiet less efficient than their predecessors to achieve higher speeds. And because my current rig is completely AMD and it failed my completely, I want to go Intel/Nvidia this time. Maybe by the time I raise enough money for the GPU (because I will be buying them in parts, with the GPU last) the GTX 2060 is released. I will check it out then.
If open air is recommended, I will have a look then at them. I just though blower would be more appropriate! Thanks again!
Hector
Hmmm... with no fans at all, (other the than the GPU and PSU Fans), in an open air design the air moving over GPU will more or less be limited to the "warmer" air trapped within the confines of the enclosure. Granted a blower design eliminates the concern but may introduce more noise than you want.

Keep in mind when building in any of the Silverstone cases outlined in this thread, that all fans (if any) should be installed as intake (pulling air into the case). The positive case pressure will push / vent the hot air out through the side vents located around the edges of the case.

As to your question, I was also looking to reduce noise as one of my primary goals (in addition to performance) I'd suggest an open air GPU with along with a nice quality PWM controllable case fan. Even with the case fan running at slower speeds it will still be pulling fresh outside cool air. This combination will be quieter than GPU with a blower. It's the configuration I'm using and I can't hear anything unless I put my ear right up to it. FYI: To ensure quiet operation, I use the configuration settings of the motherboard to control the case and CPU fan speeds.
   
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Hmmm... with no fans at all, (other the than the GPU and PSU Fans), in an open air design the air moving over GPU will more or less be limited to the "warmer" air trapped within the confines of the enclosure. Granted a blower design eliminates the concern but may introduce more noise than you want.

Keep in mind when building in any of the Silverstone cases outlined in this thread, that all fans (if any) should be installed as intake (pulling air into the case). The positive case pressure will push / vent the hot air out through the side vents located around the edges of the case.

As to your question, I was also looking to reduce noise as one of my primary goals (in addition to performance) I'd suggest an open air GPU with along with a nice quality PWM controllable case fan. Even with the case fan running at slower speeds it will still be pulling fresh outside cool air. This combination will be quieter than GPU with a blower. It's the configuration I'm using and I can't hear anything unless I put my ear right up to it. FYI: To ensure quiet operation, I use the configuration settings of the motherboard to control the case and CPU fan speeds.

Thank you very much for the answer! I also concluded that in the end an open air will be more appropriate for this case. May I ask which graphics card and case fans you are using? I am leaning towards this model http://www.galax.com/en/graphics-card/galax-geforce-gtx-1060-ex-oc-6gb.html and as for the case fans http://www.scythe-eu.com/en/products/fans/slip-stream-120-mm-slim.html and I would really like your opinion. The fans are not PWM, but I should be able to control them via the motherboard.And they are dead silent as well!

Another thing is the CPU cooler. I think that the be quiet shadow rock lp is very appropriate, but I am not sure I will be able to install it the way I want, which is the heatsink covering the ram slots. Will I need an additional fan at the slot above the CPU with a cooler like the one a mentioned? Sorry for asking all these questions but this is my first mini itx build and I do not want any nasty surprises.
Thanks in advance!
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What about the EVGA SC or SSC? They're significantly cheaper than the FTW where I am, but you should still get the EVGA quality/warranty benefits.

You need a fan on the CPU vent because otherwise there is no pressure differential and the heat generated by all the motherboard components will just collect. A cooler shorter than 58mm lets you use a full size fan, and shorter than 70mm lets you use most low profile fans. PWM is superior for noise, voltage control works but it's much more hit and miss. Should be fine if you have a good mobo I suppose.
Edited by antilles - 4/30/17 at 4:44pm
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Thank you very much for the answer! I also concluded that in the end an open air will be more appropriate for this case. May I ask which graphics card and case fans you are using? I am leaning towards this model http://www.galax.com/en/graphics-card/galax-geforce-gtx-1060-ex-oc-6gb.html and as for the case fans http://www.scythe-eu.com/en/products/fans/slip-stream-120-mm-slim.html and I would really like your opinion. The fans are not PWM, but I should be able to control them via the motherboard.And they are dead silent as well!

Another thing is the CPU cooler. I think that the be quiet shadow rock lp is very appropriate, but I am not sure I will be able to install it the way I want, which is the heatsink covering the ram slots. Will I need an additional fan at the slot above the CPU with a cooler like the one a mentioned? Sorry for asking all these questions but this is my first mini itx build and I do not want any nasty surprises.
Thanks in advance!
Hector
My video card selection may or may not apply to your requirements. In addition to some serious gaming I also use my PC to watch movies on a LG OLED 65" TV. At the time I built my gaming rig the only premium GeForce choices were the GTX960, 970 and 980. The 970 and 980 cost more but I selected the GeForce EVGA GTX 960 4GB SSC because it had the GM206 chip and supported HDCP 2.2 content protection over HDMI "and" because (in addition to the 2.0 HDMI port) it also has DisplayPort 1.2 as well as support for H.265 encoding and decoding. These were all important features to me for taking advantage of watching 4K movies and 4K Youtube videos on my TV via my PC. The 970 and 980 only supported H.265

No worry about the fans not being PWM controlled. Most newer motherboards (mine included) allow for using BIOS voltage to control fan speed instead.

You intended build looks solid. Unfortunately I'm not up to speed on the GTX 1060. Remember, when I built mine I was looking for a dual purpose card (gaming and movies) so my selection criteria may not apply. Problem is.. after gaming on a 65" it kills me to go back to my 24" monitor.

All that being said... I built my rig over a year ago. In the world of computer hardware technology changes super fast. What was cutting edge 90 days ago can be yesterdays hardware. Fortunately with the hardware I selected, and some overclocking... I can still keep up with the best of them! And... I'm still amazed at having 11 seconds from cold boot to gaming thanks to my SSD) Anyway... at the time I did a "ton" of research, read all the articles I could find etc etc. One of the best coolers for the RVZ01, FTZ01 or ML07 was the Cryorig C1 CPU cooler using a 25mm x 140 mm fan. It has 120mm mounting holes and mounts on the case cover opposite the cooler. Anyway... for more specifics on my build and the components and hardware used... as well as some neat modifications I made... just click on the two links in my signature (Skylake Milo Project) to see the component listing and some photos..

Just FYI: You probably already know this... but just in case you weren't aware, the RVZ01, FTZ01 and the ML07 are "identical cases internally"... only the exterior design is different. So... any build tips, fans, coolers etc you read about on the FTZ01 or ML07 will apply to the RVZ01.
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Hey guys, I just wanted to chime in after reading a few hundred pages of comments, my contribution is regarding the FTZ01 / delidding and the TD03 SLIM AiO cooler from Silverstone. I also wanted to add something because of the lack of FTZ01 info on these pages given that most people own the Raven.

My hardware:

CPU: i5 7600K (delidded) @ 4.8GHz / 1.25V. I have stability tested 5Ghz and while it is stable, my Z270i Gaming from ASUS uses stupid voltages up to 1.45V+ for no reason so I had to do it manually.
Core Temp reports average temps of 57 Celsius at 100% load during the AIDA64 CPU/FPU/Cache/System Memory stability test
Idle temp: 34 Celsius

The fan curves and pump curves are extremely relaxed with the CPU cooling (the SLIM+ 25mm Noctua sandwiched together using the bundled Noctua splitter) runs at 30% or is switched off most of the time. The 1070 sits at a solid 100% GPU usage under benchmark conditions in Afterburner with no throttling at a temperature of 70-71 degrees. The loudest component of the system is probably the 3,5" drive. If you were willing to tinker with the fan curves a little more you could improve cooling further, but I don't feel there's any gains left here.

RAM:
16 GB Ballistix Tactical @ DDR4-3000 XMP

GPU: GTX 1070 AERO ITX 8G OC (this is a new mini-ITX version, the shortest 1070 out there I believe at 17.5cm in length)

So now for the weird bit of my build:

1. The TD03 SLIM, despite checking directly with Silverstone, does not fit where you would expect it to fit i.e directly above the CPU. The hoses are far too thick, you couldn't even get close to installing it that way. Consequently (and because there was no way I was returning this thing) I installed the radiator+slim fan in the forward compartment of where a traditional-length GPU would go i.e near where the 8-pin PCI-E connector is normally situated. I don't know if this was intentional by MSI or not but the 1070 fits perfectly, even allowing me to install a full 25mm Noctua onto the TD03 SLIM radiator in addition to the standard 15mm slim fan that comes with the TD03.

While I'm kind of pissed at Silverstone for saying this AiO cooler "fits" in the case (it does, with some creative interpretation of the word "fits"), and the cabling is extremely dense and difficult to deal with overall, I have managed to fit a 3TB 3,5" drive as well as a 500GB SSD in there as well.

The hoses are definitely more taut than I would prefer, but there is no risk of kinking and the temperatures have been superb - bearing in mind this is a delidded 7600K anyway. The other quirk of this build is that I can look directly at the pump through the side of the case as there was no need for an additional case fan where the CPU cooler would otherwise have been situated. The TD03 hoses also make the addition of any further case fans difficult, and since the motherboard sensors report temperatures of 40 degrees or lower I'm content to leave it as is.

2. I installed a second 25mm Noctua into the second GPU slot (i.e directly over the single-fan ITX 1070 to feed it fresh air). The load temperatures are in line with what you would expect in any ATX case, demonstrating that the card hasn't suffered being crammed into the FTZ01. I definitely would consider undervolting the GPU anyway, mostly just for fun, as I'm pretty sure you could probably knock another 10 degrees off and sit around 60 at full load. The GPU is silent or at least indistinguishable from any other component without going into Afterburner and maxing out the fan speed, which never happens during gaming anyway.

Overall the performance, overclocking and looks are superb in the FTZ01. If I was doing it again I'd be half tempted to go with a different AiO that would allow installation directly over the CPU and fit a full length 1080 Ti or so instead. As it is I am really liking this mini-1070 however and will probably keep an eye open for an ITX 1080 Ti should one ever come out.
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