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post #881 of 7154
Not sure as I never did get around to install it, Capt Zombie in the thread did, I think he said it was the fan. Its a very thin, and it tests going larger doesn't really seem to help it all that much.
post #882 of 7154
If its just the fan (and clearance isn't an issue) I would just mount the fan on the case lid instead of mounting it on the cooler (assuming the venting holes line up). Once I get my hands on the case though I can actually figure that out . Canada Post should be dropping it off today!
post #883 of 7154
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Originally Posted by Jimhans1 View Post

I would reverse the CPU fan so it is pulling instead of pushing in that situation honestly, the case fan blowing cold air from outside will help more for CPU temps that way.

PS: what CPU cooler are you using??
I will use the AXP-100 Muscle. Is it possible (and recommandable) to reverse the fan with this cooler?

In that case the setup would be 2 intake case fans (one at the top, one at the bottom) and one reversed CPU Cooler.

EDIT:
hmm, could it be that I misunderstood the standard airflow direction?

Right now I think it´s pushing the air towards the CPU, not the other way around, right? In that case I wouldn´t need to reverse it.

EDIT2:
Ok, so the standard direction is towards the heatsink (and you could reverse it)



http://www.thermalright.com/html/products/cpu_cooler/axp-100_muscle.html?panel=2
Edited by Nerix - 4/10/14 at 8:16am
post #884 of 7154
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Originally Posted by Nerix View Post

I will use the AXP-100 Muscle. Is it possible (and recommandable) to reverse the fan with this cooler?

In that case the setup would be 2 intake case fans (one at the top, one at the bottom) and one reversed CPU Cooler.

EDIT:
hmm, could it be that I misunderstood the standard airflow direction?

Right now I think it´s pushing the air towards the CPU, not the other way around, right? In that case I wouldn´t need to reverse it.

EDIT2:
Ok, so the standard direction is towards the heatsink (and you could reverse it)



http://www.thermalright.com/html/products/cpu_cooler/axp-100_muscle.html?panel=2

I would not recommend reversing the fan and running it in pull as an exhaust. You'd be much better suited to pull fresh, cooler air from outside the case and force it through the fins.
post #885 of 7154
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Originally Posted by whoanelly View Post

Man, does that ever look pleasant.

I finished my build last night, what a royal PIA. I think I used every curse word in all combinations possible. The Noctua just eats all that real estate in there so you have to do most of your connections before you mount it in the case, and heaven forbid you forget to do something. (front audio pannel, F*#&!, Forget to flip the power supply switch.. Moth34F&*$!!) One of the biggest *****es, was my Asus 760. The PCB near the SLI connection really should be cut 45 degrees as it kept hitting the side of the case.

All in all, I would hate to have to go back in there now that its all together. I dunno, for a second I was contemplating just using the AXP muscle since I cant return it anyway, deal with the noise and save $40 difference between the Noctua. In my cold basement, my idles temps were hovering around 30C, I wonder under load in my media cabinet how it will do...

Also this is my first (and last) MSI board. Just found it flaky. Kept just showing a blank screen with blinking cursor every other reboot (no bios logo screen) After flashing to the latest bios its seemed to have stopped, but I much rather one of Asus or Gigabyte. Also the stupid Power Led blinks on sleep, not sure if this is common across all makes as I never really used sleep unless it was a laptop. My Zotac Zbox didnt do it.




I agree, this case is a ROYAL PITA to work in if you plan to keep fiddling with everything. For me, the issue is the riser card, you have to remove the entire GPU compartment. I wonder how well the ribbon riser cables work. Those could be a viable solution for those that are always fiddling around with their system that they can get to the mobo without taking the whole thing apart.
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Originally Posted by Ice Reign View Post

Grats on your build. I keep hearing the AXP-100 Muscle mentioned and if I remember correctly you are the second person to say it was noisy. Is this due to the stock fan or just the design of the heatsink? Is it not possible to replace the fan on the AXP? I am curious as I was leaning towards this cooler myself.

From what I can recall, the AXP Muscle has a 100mm fan on it. Trying to find one is gonna be a pain. The AXP-100 comes with a bracket that will allow you to place a 120mm fan on it. That is another thing that was a big difference between the two models.

Like I said early on to Jim in this thread, this case really needed probably another 1, 1.5, or 2 inches of height. It would of been perfect with AIO's and give more options with air coolers. Then there would be those *****ing and moaning that the case is way too big. Personally the ML07 should of been this, a little larger case with same layout.
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Originally Posted by Nerix View Post

I will use the AXP-100 Muscle. Is it possible (and recommandable) to reverse the fan with this cooler?

In that case the setup would be 2 intake case fans (one at the top, one at the bottom) and one reversed CPU Cooler.

EDIT:
hmm, could it be that I misunderstood the standard airflow direction?

Right now I think it´s pushing the air towards the CPU, not the other way around, right? In that case I wouldn´t need to reverse it.

EDIT2:
Ok, so the standard direction is towards the heatsink (and you could reverse it)



http://www.thermalright.com/html/products/cpu_cooler/axp-100_muscle.html?panel=2

Plus, if you have the fan pulling air up that will not do a good job of cooling the CPU as the radiator fins are not getting proper air. You are totally changing the positive air pressure of the case.

I think you will also run into a turbulence issue considering how close the 15mm Silverstone fan touches the fan from the AXP-100 if your side panel is used as an intake. This case is meant for positive air pressure setup to keep all your components cool.
Edited by CaptainZombie - 4/10/14 at 8:47am
post #886 of 7154
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Originally Posted by CaptainZombie View Post

I agree, this case is a ROYAL PITA to work in if you plan to keep fiddling with everything. For me, the issue is the riser card, you have to remove the entire GPU compartment. I wonder how well the ribbon riser cables work. Those could be a viable solution for those that are always fiddling around with their system that they can get to the mobo without taking the whole thing apart.
From what I can recall, the AXP Muscle has a 100mm fan on it. Trying to find one is gonna be a pain. The AXP-100 comes with a bracket that will allow you to place a 120mm fan on it. That is another thing that was a big difference between the two models.

So if I was going to remove the 100MM fan and mount a 120 on the case and let that blow air onto the heatsink you don't think it will have the same noise issues? As long as it lines up and is directly over I don't see it as an issue that its not directly mounted to the heatsink.
post #887 of 7154
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Ice Reign View Post

So if I was going to remove the 100MM fan and mount a 120 on the case and let that blow air onto the heatsink you don't think it will have the same noise issues? As long as it lines up and is directly over I don't see it as an issue that its not directly mounted to the heatsink.

You never want to place the heat sink without a fan. You are going to burn out your CPU. The fan is supposed to be mounted on the fins of the heat sink to dissipate all that heat.

What I am saying is that the AXP-100, not the AXP-100 Muscle came with a 120mm bracket. It allows you to replace the 100mm fan by placing this bracket on top of the heat sink so you can install a 120mm fan. The Muscle does not have this bracket.
post #888 of 7154
@CaptainZombie, Ice Reign:

my thoughts exactly, I just made the mistake to think that the standard air flow of the CPU cooler is away from the heatsink (to get rid of the heat). As it is the opposite, there is no need to change the orientation of the fan (plus, there is no issue with the airflow regarding the case fan just above the CPU cooler).

Thanks! Now only the parts have to arrive wink.gif
post #889 of 7154
I'm curious about the SFX PSU. I see a couple builds using the 450w with parts that say you should have a 500 / 600 watt PSU. How does that work?
post #890 of 7154
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Nerix View Post

@CaptainZombie, Ice Reign:

my thoughts exactly, I just made the mistake to think that the standard air flow of the CPU cooler is away from the heatsink (to get rid of the heat). As it is the opposite, there is no need to change the orientation of the fan (plus, there is no issue with the airflow regarding the case fan just above the CPU cooler).

Thanks! Now only the parts have to arrive wink.gif

You can try mounting it away from the heat sink and see what kind of results you will get. I would use the side panel fan with pulling fresh air in and then the CPU fan pushing that air downward so it can then expel out the sides of the case.

What the other guy was trying to do is not mount a fan on the heat sink at all and just use the side panel fan to cool the heat sink.
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Originally Posted by Vengeance0058 View Post

I'm curious about the SFX PSU. I see a couple builds using the 450w with parts that say you should have a 500 / 600 watt PSU. How does that work?

Since this is a 80+ gold rated PSU and is efficient, you are fine as long as you are not trying to OC both a CPU and GPU. A lot of times GPU manufacturers rate wattage higher so they don't have people blowing up their parts.

I've seen builds with 4770K + 1 Titan on this little 450W PSU here at OCN.
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