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post #11 of 62
Better question: where are the HSA apps?

It's a chicken or egg dilemma now frown.gif

A8 7600 seems to draw 112W at the wall on a Antec High Current Pro with latest drivers



http://www.hkepc.com/10960



A10-7850k is seeing gains however

GP improvements (+65%)

& BF4 (+40%)
http://benchmarkreviews.com/13238/amd-a10-7850k-performance-optimized-catalyst-14-2-driver/2/
Edited by AlphaC - 3/13/14 at 8:10pm
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post #12 of 62
FPS improved a lot on bf4, it's really impressive seeing it was only driver related.

I personally do not find it strange for HSA apps to take time to be released; A8-7600 however, has seen its design finished a while ago already, and should be here (during Q1 they said.. GRRRR)

BTW, the measures of the 7600 voltage are nice but, is it for 45w or 65w ?
post #13 of 62
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Interestingly today marks the two month mark since the A8-7600 was sent to reviewers and still nothing.

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Better question: where are the HSA apps?

It's a chicken or egg dilemma now frown.gif

A8 7600 seems to draw 112W at the wall on a Antec High Current Pro with latest drivers



http://www.hkepc.com/10960



A10-7850k is seeing gains however

GP improvements (+65%)

& BF4 (+40%)
http://benchmarkreviews.com/13238/amd-a10-7850k-performance-optimized-catalyst-14-2-driver/2/

Those 14.2 Beta drivers look quite good for the games tested, the Sandra memory bandwidth benchmark also shows a 6% improvement, I bet that is part of the explanation for the better performance besides driver optimisations for games.

The thing is, the A10-7850K and A10-7700K are too expensive for what they offer right now, whereas the A8-7600 would be great on many levels, firstly it doesn't need to justify its price on account of future benefits, secondly because with a 45w / 65w configurable TDP it would be ideal for HTPC systems.

Also, it's interesting to note that with Turbo Core enabled, even the A10-7850K seems to downclock the CPU to 3 Ghz to allow for maximum GPU performance, and no ill effects on game performance were seen as ExtremeTech reported here, which means that the A8-7600 wouldn't suffer much, if at all, in comparison. On the other hand, the GPU can be overclocked on the A8-7600, making it the best bang for the buck. The A10-7850K's GPU is bottlenecked by the memory bandwidth anyway (you can clearly see it below in the Torchlight 2 benchmark where Dual Graphics doesn't work and you can compare the results between the A10-7850K's CPU and GPU and its CPU and an R7 250 DDR3), you can achieve the same gaming results by overclocking a 384 Stream Processor part.

As it is, there are better solutions out there, as ExtremeTech pointed out (and I and others had been saying since they were released):

http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/177677-dual-graphics-dud-intel-clobbers-amds-apus-in-budget-gaming
Edited by tpi2007 - 3/14/14 at 6:09am
 
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post #14 of 62
We seem to have the same sources smile.gif... Yes I'm also waiting for the 7600 in order to build me a gaming htpc ( still hesitating between r7 240 & r7 250)

7700k is just the 7600 boosted/overclocked. But 7850k does have a real benefit in gpu with more cores.. which for the moment doesn't seem to improve a lot performances.

Also when dual graphics is enabled, it seems the 7700k+r7 240 follows closely the 7850k+r7 250.

Can't wait for this chip to be available...
post #15 of 62
Well, three days left.. Doesn't feel like it will be there in time, does it?

I'm beginning to wonder what would be the cause of all this long awaiting from them:
- Selling the remaining Richland APUs? (Well that's true that it's just now that we begin to see them in laptop... "Lol" big fail here)
- Is 7600 a buggy processor? That could be true, maybe they want to put there more performance, but well high end kaveri is already out so... Still don't see the point.

What do you think? I'm at loss ;___;
post #16 of 62
Maybe they have problems making 45W mode work. Or maybe it's just the marketing department holding it up. Who knows...

The only thing I know for sure is that I'm getting impatient with AMD. I was hoping to use A8-7600 in my new HTPC which has been on hold for a month now!

Maybe I'll just go with a 35W Haswell from Intel instead.
post #17 of 62
AMD is cash strapped. Possibly they want to financially milk the A10-7850k further before introducing the A8-7600.
post #18 of 62
Its April Already !! and there is still no news of A8-7600.
I checked the AMD Web site today, and i dont see A8-7600 listed any more too !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My guess the have stalled the release, just to make sure they sell the 7850k and 7700k .

Has any one has some official information on the release of A8 7600 or will this stall over few more months and slip in to next quarter ?
Its bad to they are making people wait so long.. frown.gif Its slowly reducing the enthusiasm over the product and making people turn away.
post #19 of 62
I agree with you.. Well i wouldn't say "already april", I waited way too long for nothing.. :')
post #20 of 62
If they release the A8-7600 too early it'll make the 7850K worthless wink.gif or they'll have to drop their prices.

I too was looking forward to Kaveri but it's launch is a bit... strange.

It'll turn up eventually though biggrin.gif
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