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Ahhh this discussion is driving me mad mad.gif I am now completely confused on whether or not to pull the trigger on my build once haswell-e comes out, or wait for the 800 series, since it seems that I could be waiting another year for it now...

Exactly the same boat. And with a four-and-a-half-year-old rig, I'm not sure I want to push it another year. At this point I'm tempted to just get an intermediate upgrade like a 760 or 770, knowing that I'll replace the whole thing whenever Maxwell really comes out. But man, do I not want to do that.
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Exactly the same boat. And with a four-and-a-half-year-old rig, I'm not sure I want to push it another year. At this point I'm tempted to just get an intermediate upgrade like a 760 or 770, knowing that I'll replace the whole thing whenever Maxwell really comes out. But man, do I not want to do that.

I am thinking the exact same thing.... so sad to think about but I think that going with a single 780 for the meantime is worth it. We won't want maxwell as soon as it comes out due to driver issues and freak incidents, so we should get almost 2 years out of a 780 if we buy it tomorrow. The other question that comes in, is do we go with the higher end "enthusiast" cpu lga 2011, or with a more mainstream lga 1150 4770k. What do you think
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Ahhh this discussion is driving me mad mad.gif I am now completely confused on whether or not to pull the trigger on my build once haswell-e comes out, or wait for the 800 series, since it seems that I could be waiting another year for it now...

Just because 20nm is possibly delayed does not mean the 800 series will be. They could stick with 28nm and launch on schedule.

Edited to add:...or not. http://www.overclock.net/t/1478038/think-computers-nvidia-maxwell-20nm-gpu-lineup-delayed-until-2015#post_22036553

Possibly they think the 700 series is still "good enough".
Edited by HappyTimeHarry - 3/31/14 at 1:42pm
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Did you hear this already? Or did it get mentioned already?
Someone pointed it out in another thread..

Seems theres more delay up to come for the 20nm.
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-maxwell-20nm-delayed-late-2014-early-2015/

Discuss.

#inb4aprilsfools

What? This falls in line with pretty much all reliable speculation for the last 3 months.

NVidia pushing a 28nm 8xx, with a 20nm 9XX coming in 2015.

I think some of this speculation is even in this exact thread, pages & pages ago. GoldenTiger & I discussed it @ some point in the thread.

This may be new story, but similar stories have been dropped many times. 20NM is causing serious issues, this has been known for awhile.
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Maxwell is the next gen GPU, not CPU. It won't need a new mobo/ram/cpu whatever.

On the second point, if you buy LGA1150, that won't allow you to /upgrade to Haswell-E as that needs LGA2011-3.

Alright, but if I buy a lga 2011 socket chip right now, that won't let me upgrade to haswell-e as well correct? Seeing that haswell-e will use lga 2011-3....
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Alright, but if I buy a lga 2011 socket chip right now, that won't let me upgrade to haswell-e as well correct? Seeing that haswell-e will use lga 2011-3....

Correct, they are not compatible.
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What? This falls in line with pretty much all reliable speculation for the last 3 months.

NVidia pushing a 28nm 8xx, with a 20nm 9XX coming in 2015.

I think some of this speculation is even in this exact thread, pages & pages ago. GoldenTiger & I discussed it @ some point in the thread.

This may be new story, but similar stories have been dropped many times. 20NM is causing serious issues, this has been known for awhile.

There has been that speculation, but I for one don't count it as reliable. It makes much more sense to me that 20nm = 800 series, period. If there were going to be a full Maxwell line at 28nm, we'd be having it right now, two years after the 680 and one year after the 780. Instead, we have one deliberately underpowered example of Maxwell that nonetheless demonstrates some damned exciting things for both power efficiency and area efficiency to keep the discussion about Maxwell going while they wait for 20nm to shake out.

There has been no credible source saying that 800 series won't be 20nm. All we have is speculation based on the delays on the 20nm manufacturing side, with the extrapolation that if Nvidia were to stick to their original roadmap timetable, that they would be forced into 28nm Maxwell as the 800 series. It makes far, far, FAR more sense to me that they do in fact give a damn about having a significant performance increase between major generations, and are more willing to let the release schedule slip due to manufacturing issues than they are to release a full line of "Well, it's sortof an upgrade, but not really what you're used to, but you're fine with that anyway right?"

800 series will be 20nm. We may get more 28nm in the 700 series as the year goes, but we really have no reason to believe that they'll release another entire 28nm line six to eight months behind their usual schedule. The only justification for a schedule slip that severe is that they're waiting for something big, and that something big is 20nm.
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Maybe the 6GB push is to buy up time. who knows.
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Maybe the 6GB push is to buy up time. who knows.

It certainly is to buy time, yes.
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20nm doom rumours are helping NVIDIA sell current models. Perhaps AMD too.

The iphone is confirmed to be manufactured as we speak along with its A8 TSMC 20nm processor.

If you think they can't make a 20nm small GPU after August you are fooled.
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