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You understand that baseline efficiency affects the high end too, correct?

This.

High-end GPUs are thermally limited. Reduce the thermal load through efficiency improvements, and the ceiling goes up. Efficiency is a very, very big deal for the high-end, not just for mobile running on batteries.
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Im a Volta or buat kinda guy right now. Max will be a mediocre and expensive upgrade from 3x 1300mhz titans.
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same, ill be at 100+ fps at most games anyway when i get my 3rd kingpin and the 5930k 8 core
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same, ill be at 100+ fps at most games anyway when i get my 3rd kingpin and the 5930k 8 core
Hopefully games don't come out in the near future that demand more than 3 gigs at max settings.
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Anyone wanna guess pricing?

Prob $800 or more for the flagship gpu, at least.
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But I would think long and hard before spending a grand on a single GPU again, if they are priced as such.
Definitely. The diminishing returns curve gets very steep at that point. For me it's not worth it but I do enjoy seeing other people build the monster rigs.
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TSMC stopped half nodes after 55nm . So the GTX 280 (65 nm) - > GTX 285 (55 nm) comparison does not hold now. Moreover Nvidia was late with GF100 Fermi (GTX 480). If they had been on time the gap would be the usual 1 year. TSMC 20nm is in volume production this quarter. Apple is most probably getting the maximum allocation at this leading node. So Nvidia, Qualcomm, AMD will have to wait a bit longer to get enough wafers for a full production run. The earliest we can expect GM104 is Aug-Sep . latest would be Nov-Dec. I think late Q3 / early Q4 is most likely.
A massive 550 sq mm die on an immature bleeding edge node with yield problems is not going to happen. Nvidia learnt that lesson hard with GF100. The smart thing is the Kepler way. A mid range die at 300 - 330 sq mm which can be manufactured at acceptable yields and sold at flagship prices. The problem is the flagship prices have been steadily increasing in both camps.

GTX 480 / GTX 580- 500
GTX 680 - 500
GTX 780 - 650
GTX 780Ti - 700

HD 5870 - 380
HD 6970 - 370
HD 7970 - 550
R9 290X - 550 (but 700 in US due to retailer price gouging and mining craze)

GM104 aka GTX 880 can easily be sold at USD 700 if it comes with a 40% increase in perf over GTX 780 Ti. AMD will most probably launch later this gen as they are most likely to get HBM (high bandwidth memory) out on their 20nm flagship. AMD too can sell at USD 650 - 700 if they match the GTX 880. Enthusiasts have to get used to these ever increasing prices if they always want the best perf money can buy.


Here I bought my 5870 reference asus card for 550 at pretty much launch, and swiss franks are nearly same as $ maybe a couple more..

And by the way BF4 would be pretty much the only game where I would see the need to upgrade, I played crysis 3 rather smooth, had to turn down graphics at a boss, thats it lol, but of course not playing ultra.. just saying that was hell of a good card for the money
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Here I bought my 5870 reference asus card for 550 at pretty much launch, and swiss franks are nearly same as $ maybe a couple more..

And by the way BF4 would be pretty much the only game where I would see the need to upgrade, I played crysis 3 rather smooth, had to turn down graphics at a boss, thats it lol, but of course not playing ultra.. just saying that was hell of a good card for the money

Lulz, I see Rahul is defending his employer with fud as usual. The 5870 was most certainly not 370. I paid 500 and returned it due to absurd driver issues with amd, should have known better but tried a 7970 for 550 at launch too which was riddled. Thankfully both were returnable. And yes these numbers are I'm USD. smile.gif
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Lulz, I see Rahul is defending his employer with fud as usual. The 5870 was most certainly not 370. I paid 500 and returned it due to absurd driver issues with amd, should have known better but tried a 7970 for 550 at launch too which was riddled. Thankfully both were returnable. And yes these numbers are I'm USD. smile.gif

I paid $379.99 for my 5870 a month after it released, and I am using it to this day.
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Still had way more issues in comparison before switching to nVidia. By the way, my quote was the latest nVidia driver version.

They were ALL taken from the latest Nvidia driver thread.

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The difference being that i was able to find a resolution, which was forcing gen 3.0 support. NVidia has also been in the middle of rebuilding a few things, so problems are to be expected.

That's kind of the point. I haven't had a issue with AMD i haven't been able to fix on my own either (Other than a D.O.A card) , either side can take a bit of tweaking to set it up right, but for some reason people seem happy to blame the drivers when AMD have issues, and look for reasons/ excuses when it's Nvidia. Just my observations. AMD are also "in the middle" of introducing a few things to (Mantle).
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