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Where do you see a $1000 card getting outdated in 3-6 months? I bought my Titans in February of 2013 and they will remain at the very top of the performance charts until the GTX 880 arrives, probably in October of 2014. That would make 20 months of being a flagship which is very good as far as I can tell. Last generation, the 7970 launched in December 2011 and remained on top until Titan launched 14 months later...
I'm pretty sure the Titan got passed up awhile ago. Great cards though.
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For most people who game, Titan pretty much got replaced by the much cheaper and almost identical performing 780 3 months later.

95% as fast and two thirds as cheap. That was a big blow to Titan users.

Guess what happened to 780 users a relatively short while later? $150 price drop and another release that was 20% faster for only $50 more than what they originally bought the 780 for.

They shafted us big time.

Have you ever taken an Economics or Business course?

You think you got shafted? It's strategic business sense being executed by a Billion Dollar company who is maximizing profits for their product.

If you can't handle being "shafted" make sure you're not an early adopter who is willing to pay higher prices, and start buying with the early to late majority, when prices and cards have settled down.

Notice how the product adoption curve closely resembles the product life cycle curve.

In this case GK110 is the "product", and has been launched in various forms, at different times while maximizing profits during its entire life cycle.





Early Adopters are always willing to pay more, so they can be the first to have the latest and greatest, the fastest.

Early & Late Majority need to see proof before buying, and aren't wiling to pay the premium early adopters are.
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I'm pretty sure the Titan got passed up awhile ago. Great cards though.

Not really. With unlocked voltage I can do 1320MHz on my Titans which make them awful hard for even a 780Ti to beat. Are they technically the fastest cards available? No, but near enough so as to make no difference. I certainly don't see anything on the market now or in the near future that would make for a worthy upgrade from Titan....
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Not really. With unlocked voltage I can do 1320MHz on my Titans which make them awful hard for even a 780Ti to beat. Are they technically the fastest cards available? No, but near enough so as to make no difference. I certainly don't see anything on the market now or in the near future that would make for a worthy upgrade from Titan....
I was simply pointing out that the Titan has not been at the top of the heap for months which you have now agreed with. Not trying to start an argument or anything. Sorry if I sound like an @ss. The Titan is a great GPU and I don't see a reason for you to upgrade for who knows how long
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Why was Nvidia so generous with the G80? Why did they give us the 8800GTX (a genuinely spectacular card that enjoyed very good longevity and wasn't priced ridiculously), instead of a 'just good enough' cut down version and then incremental improvements (like the drip feed tactics they use today)?
Edited by Oubadah - 3/3/14 at 10:39pm
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Why was Nvidia so generous with the G80? Why did they give us the 8800GTX (a genuinely spectacular card that enjoyed very good longevity and wasn't priced ridiculously), instead of a 'just good enough' cut down version and then incremental improvements (like the drip feed tactics they use today)?

G92

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_8_Series

Fermi also pretty nice IMO. AMD's 7000 series were pretty dope, what I currently have. Waiting for new stuff to drop in price, aka it's not a high priority.
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I'm pretty sure the Titan got passed up awhile ago. Great cards though.
You should probably go look @ conventional benchmarking, as titan is still @ the top of the pack, due to 780Ti being locked @ 1.212V... Ti is also only ~70mhz faster than titan clock for clock. That means it takes a 1400mhz titani to compete with a 1330mhz Ti.. Not a common sight, because we be scared to push 1.4V .

It's been irrelevant due to MSRP since the 780 launched, but in conventional bench marking it still takes the cake 9/10, and only loses when held next to KingPin.
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For most people who game, Titan pretty much got replaced by the much cheaper and almost identical performing 780 3 months later.

95% as fast and two thirds as cheap. That was a big blow to Titan users.

Guess what happened to 780 users a relatively short while later? $150 price drop and another release that was 20% faster for only $50 more than what they originally bought the 780 for.

They shafted us big time.

I think you already stated this... Also, titan is still the #1 choice for people looking to push UHD/3D surround, if you are lucky you can find 290x for 700$, but it has also peaked @ 899$ depending on the day. 2/3rd's as cheap? 780 is now half the price of a titan, but was only 250$ less @ launch. This is the price you pay for early adaptation. This is why I ALWAYS buy flagships, they end up paying for them selves in the long run. You shafted your self by not reading up on GPU trends, you must be new to the scene as this is a common practice.

Look, the point here is that GK110 will remain a viable option until 20nm hits the scene in 2015, specially for those of us pushing 2 & 3 cards. The only thing that has changed here is that Nvidia has found out they can now charge way more for their top of the line products... Call it inflation, call it AMD's fault, blame the Illuminati... I don't really care. I don't think lack of competition was the only reason Nvidia jacked their prices. I think they also did this to prep people for the price of 20nm and beyond.
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G92

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_8_Series

Fermi also pretty nice IMO. AMD's 7000 series were pretty dope, what I currently have. Waiting for new stuff to drop in price, aka it's not a high priority.

What about G92? It came almost a year later. Certainly the 8800GT worked some magic in the mid range, but the 8800GTX remained strong in the high end for ages, just look at the the 9800GTX - what a joke.
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What about G92? It came almost a year later. Certainly the 8800GT worked some magic in the mid range, but the 8800GTX remained strong in the high end for ages, just look at the the 9800GTX - what a joke.

That's the card that I think was pretty good. The G92 was my favorite to own.
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Look, the point here is that GK110 will remain a viable option until 20nm hits the scene in 2015, specially for those of us pushing 2 & 3 cards. The only thing that has changed here is that Nvidia has found out they can now charge way more for their top of the line products... Call it inflation, call it AMD's fault, blame the Illuminati... I don't really care. I don't think lack of competition was the only reason Nvidia jacked their prices. I think they also did this to prep people for the price of 20nm and beyond.

That's precisely the problem.

I remember people on here being pissed that a 590 cost $700. Dual gpu cards these days cost $1000 now even single cards like Titan and the Ti cost $1000 and $700 respectively.

I still don't get how so many of you guys just ignore this.
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