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You've missed the point. The important part of my post was the "20% faster than flagship" part, not the TDP. wink.gif
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So are we expecting some GK104ness with the first high end iteration of Maxwell?
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Say what now? The 750ti is a 60W TDP card designed primarily for mobile - indeed GM107 is now appearing in various ultrabooks. If that performance is scaled with CUDA cores for a 250W TDP part, it will be beastly regardless of 28nm or 20nm. As far as what happens, I have no idea. Keep in mind, though, that efficiency of low end parts (which is what Maxwell and kepler were designed for first and foremost) has a direct effect on the scaling of high end parts. I don't know if Maxwell will be feasible for 28nm, but if it remains 28nm it will still far outperform GK110. The only question is whether 28nm has the required transistor density for a big die Maxwell. That I don't know. It could require 20nm.

The GK107 was the first kepler chip to debut and it appeared in ultrabooks well before GK104 hit the streets. That part was of a higher TDP and performed WAY LOWER than the GM107, and if you extrapolate how well GK110 performs based on GK107, and then extrapolate a 60W TDP GM107 scaled with more CUDA cores for a 250-300W TDP GPU.....the Maxwell will obviously perform way better once scaled upwards. GM107 is double the performance per watt of the GK107. That same trend should apply to high end maxwell GPUs - a 250W Maxwell would perform well above an outgoing kepler once Maxwell is scaled up with thousands of CUDA cores. Again, the GM107 is a 60W TDP part. The 60W TDP Kepler performs at *half* the speed of GM107.

Yeah, but we didn't get GK110 first did we? smile.gif
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I'm just getting it out there before people get their hopes up (probably already too late). It's what happens with every GPU launch. What you have to remember is that NVIDIA is going to do the bare minimum they have to to outpace AMD, and charge as much as they can get away with while they're at it (GTX 780 Black, anyone?).

Did 780 black ever even exist? Did you mean Titan Black?



The only reason NVidia could be seen as out pacing AMD right now is due to pricing. 290X performs much better @ high resolutions than Nvidia's 500$ competition. Then you have the whole no one wants to mine with Nvidia thing, which Maxwell will change over night.
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Regardless if it comes out or not this year, I think I am going to just switch from 7970 to 780 Ti (if I can find a nice deal on a pair) and the ROG Swift. At that I will call it good for awhile, with the exception of a CPU upgrade, I think I will jump from the 2500K to 3770K and call it that for a year....maybe....

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Regardless if it comes out or not this year, I think I am going to just switch from 7970 to 780 Ti (if I can find a nice deal on a pair) and the ROG Swift. At that I will call it good for awhile, with the exception of a CPU upgrade, I think I will jump from the 2500K to 3770K and call it that for a year....maybe....

Damn this hobby.

If you have a stable 4.6ghz overclock i wouldn't bother upgrading cpu. My 4770k is no better in general than my 3570k, slightly worse overclock, both sucked actually, and the 3570k was considered to be not much better than the 2500k, wait another 12- 18 months and really get your moneys worth. The 7970 to 780ti would be a nice upgrade tho.
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Regardless if it comes out or not this year, I think I am going to just switch from 7970 to 780 Ti (if I can find a nice deal on a pair) and the ROG Swift. At that I will call it good for awhile, with the exception of a CPU upgrade, I think I will jump from the 2500K to 3770K and call it that for a year....maybe....

Damn this hobby.

Just get an 8 core Haswell, and you'll be set for the next decade. I plan on it. wink.gif
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It really depends, if he plans to play games that actually use multithreading, than the 3770k/4770k is a fine upgrade. They will also use a good bit less power. They are faster, but not by much.

IE: all the next gen engines will properly use multithreading. If you would like an example of what this can look like, look up crysis 3 benchmarks with and without multithreading enabled.

New frostbite, ue4, & and crygen3.5.8 and beyond will all be heavily used for true "next gen" titles. Hell, EVEN Ubisoft has built them selves a fully threaded engine, just not sure when we are going to see it in action.
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Remember when early last year there was no news on the 700 series, it was completely silent, and many people were suspecting Nvidia were going to just skip the 700 series and go straight for Maxwell?

Then suddenly out of nowhere (I think it was April?) they announced the 700 series, launching late May, just in time for Computex early June.

Fingers crossed it would be the same this year. ph34r-smiley.gif
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It really depends, if he plans to play games that actually use multithreading, than the 3770k/4770k is a fine upgrade. They will also use a good bit less power. They are faster, but not by much.

IE: all the next gen engines will properly use multithreading. If you would like an example of what this can look like, look up crysis 3 benchmarks with and without multithreading enabled.

New frostbite, ue4, & and crygen3.5.8 and beyond will all be heavily used for true "next gen" titles. Hell, EVEN Ubisoft has built them selves a fully threaded engine, just not sure when we are going to see it in action.

More than anything, I was taking a shot at Intel and their sub-par upgrades since the 2500K launched. wink.gif
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