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My 3960x barely gets utilised, I can't imagine trying to get a 16 thread CPU to sweat in current gaming engines.

I'm thinking ill be on SB-E for a long while yet.
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I think nVidia will really rush to bring out new cards so amd/ati mining cards finally have some competition. Hopefully it's 20nm.
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My 3960x barely gets utilised, I can't imagine trying to get a 16 thread CPU to sweat in current gaming engines.

I'm thinking ill be on SB-E for a long while yet.
Same... We only have three engines that are fully threaded right now. New frostbite, Crytek, and A4 (metro) A4 engine will never get used again, Crytek is getting more popular, Frostbite will be pushing 15 or so games by this time next year. I don't really see a need to ditch SB-E unless intel decides to start supplying more lanes @ some point. Next gen graphics cards could really start pushing the bandwidth meter, & I would love to run native 16x16x16x biggrin.gif
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I think nVidia will really rush to bring out new cards so amd/ati mining cards finally have some competition. Hopefully it's 20nm.

doesn't even matter, 28nm maxwell is somthing like 35% more efficient, while maintaining higher hash rates than hawaii.
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Right, that happened once in NV's history because GK110 was still being worked on. Every other family? Big die was released along with the rest. There's no reason to assume that a GK104 situation will happen again. It COULD happen, or maybe not, but you're simply arguing conjecture. The main point i'm making is that Maxwell as an architecture has double the performance per watt of Kepler even on 28nm - even if NV remained on 28nm lithography, the gains would be huge. If you look up and down the Kepler line of chips, they all scaled linearly with additional CUDA cores. Maxwell is designed similarly with the same scaling architecture. If GM107 is twice as fast as GK107 at the same TDP, that would also apply to the scaled up chips in the rest of the family. Now the big question in all of this is transistor density. Die size on 28nm will not be inconsequential, so because of that one could argue that the big die Maxwell would have to be 20nm. That's very possible, but we're not sure.

Anyway, i'm not saying either / or will happen. Either could happen - more than one hardware website has hinted at Maxwell GTX 800s coming perhaps sooner than we think, hardwarecanucks mentioned some vague hints along these lines as well. We simply do not know. And to be clear, you could be correct. It could be 20nm. Then again, maybe not. It could be GM204, or maybe not. We just don't know. I think it's interesting to speculate. But in any case: you're 100% incorrect that GM107 isn't impressive. The fact that it is double the performance/watt of GK107 is insane. GM107 basically performs *twice* as fast as GK107 at the same TDP, and it outperforms the R7-250 by even more than that (R7-250 is a 65W TDP). That means that Maxwell will perform ridiculously well once scaled up to 250-300W TDP, and yes, even on 28nm.

If it does remain 28nm, I don't believe release is anytime imminent. I'd say summer would be my guess. As skupples said, we usually get solid rumors 6-8 weeks out from release, this has happened consistently with most GPUs in the prior 2 years. So while some sites have speculated a March April release for bigger Maxwell chips, i'd say probably...no.

When did I ever say that? I said that its possible they may not be able to pull a GM204 trick this time around if yields or performance isn't up to par but then said that judging by the 750Ti I doubted that was likely. Meaning that GM107 has performed very well. I do think that if Nvidia can pull off another small-die flagship with Maxwell that they definitely will...
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Ship me 2x 880's please! Can't wait!!! hoping to see some nice gains!
Edited by SeanJ76 - 3/9/14 at 5:34pm
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And that's exactly why an 8 core Haswell will be the next best upgrade for a while, maybe not a decade I was obviously exaggerating. wink.gif

I upgrade different than most, I look forward to going from a 930 to a 5930K. Double the cores, and greatly improved IPC.

I'm not sure how much you'll gain in gaming going from 2500K --> 3770K. The 2500K at 4.6 is pretty bestly isn't it?

You going to change your name to 2015rig? wink.gif
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I'm pretty sure that they announced that the 5930k(which is 8 cores/16 threads) will be around $600. I'm sure the X version will be in the $1000 range
I'm pretty sure that they announced that the 5930k(which is 8 cores/16 threads) will be around $600. I'm sure the X version will be in the $1000 range

Just looked into it, 8 core for around $600 and a 6 core for around $400.
    
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More than anything, I was taking a shot at Intel and their sub-par upgrades since the 2500K launched. wink.gif

lol I am still packing my 2500k @ 4.8Ghz..good old Sandy Bridge!
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Any estimate release date yet?
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hopefully they let us stick DDR3 in HW-E boards... Not that I doubt they will, i just wouldn't put it past intel/mobo companies to do something silly like that.
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