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I agree with what you say, except for the core count. It seems to me that with 128 Cuda cores (Maxwell) delivering 90% of the performance of 192 Cuda cores (Kepler), the core count won't have to be that high unless they want the GTX 800 series to perform substantially better than the GTX 700 series in comparison to how the GTX 600 series performed compared to the GTX 500 series. I think it will interestingly mimic AMD's current GCN Stream processor count (see my post above). With the GTX 750 and 750 Ti it already is.

nVIDIA would want a card atleast 40% faster than GTX 780 Ti to give it a new gen flagship title and enthusiast pricing. I am sure Nvidia will price it at USD 700. 20nm is costly and Nvidia is going to want to maximize its margins. .

With my predictions above they can get a card 35% faster with 2816 Cuda cores; the GTX 780 Ti is around 39% faster compared to the GTX 680, but the release price is also higher. Now you would be having a GTX 880 Ti replacing a similarly priced GTX 780 Ti. When we take into consideration what the same price point gave you when upgrading from a GTX 580 to a GTX 680 (19% at release, 26% now), I don't think they will be that generous given equal price points.

A GTX 880 with 2560 Cuda cores performing 20% faster than a GTX 780 Ti, for $150 less may be seen as a good deal;

A GTX 880 Ti with 2816 Cuda cores performing 35% faster than a GTX 780 Ti for the same price as the previous card seems better than paying $150 more for a GTX 780 Ti compared to a GTX 680 for a slightly higher performance advantage by comparison.
 
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16nm FF will double performance because it uses them arm cores. Nvidia dropped a little hint @ some insane numbers, 1,000,000 draw calls out of "tesla processing unit"

I'm trying to hold my wallet for Denver. All signs pointed towards 20nm. Never heard anything about it showing up on 28nm in the consumer market. I would assume GPUs will follow the same line as CPUs, meaning they will lose overclockability as the die gets smaller & smaller. Not to mention how nvidia is now pushing greenlight to the max. I heard AMD is looking to do the same thing though, which makes me sad.
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This thread is long and drawn out..Yall really need to stop while yall ahead and wait for release
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This forum has accepted a wrong assumption. That a mediocre performance 28nm Maxwell on low-power translates to high performance on high power and high sizes of dies.

Yet the popular culture of the forum celebrates it as fact.

That's not how it works I'm afraid. It would have more faults/lower yield. In general we are reaching the very limits of silicon technology these years. A slight increase in power or size or temp or complexity DOES play a role.
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This thread is long and drawn out..Yall really need to stop while yall ahead and wait for release

Can't stop, won't stop, don't stop.

Speculate up till dem facts be release.
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In all likelihood, new GPUs drop after the Summer, between it and Christmas. TSMC already manufactures A8 Apple and Sumsung is reported to start manufacturing them in April. That means at least up to August drops the bomb that Apple A8 is imminent to Market. Give or take 1-2 month period for the GPUs to follow suit. In all likelihood the rush/panic to please "mama Apple" will accelerate enormously the optimization process (sad that a mobile technology does it). (Unless there is a cartel/duopoly policy between AMD/NV that keeps them lagging, which is possible). And that in general means they drop between September at least and Christmas almost certainly ready for the Holiday season.

That means, it's the absolute worst period to buy anything current, if you aren't in imminent need. It's like those moments in the market or in gambling that you sort of have the "urge" to bet and then you fail? Yep, that's it now.

And, Let alone also Intel may drop the bomb of 14nm after that period too, it's the absolute worst period in the market to buy anything current for sure. Especially if you don't even care for overpriced pieces for 4xRAM and 3x sli to get an -E CPU, it's the absolute worst for sure.
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Wth is Denver ?

Maxwell high end stuff is not even here and we are talking about Denver.

Please educate me!
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This has been a bad week for me. I bought a 4770K along with a 780 Ti last week, because most responses on forum posts say that waiting is ridiculous. Now I have to sell my 4770K and get a 5930K, and sell my 780Ti and get a 880. This will be my first rig and I will blow all my money on it, because I can't upgrade anytime soon, so I want it top end right away.
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This has been a bad week for me. I bought a 4770K along with a 780 Ti last week, because most responses on forum posts say that waiting is ridiculous. Now I have to sell my 4770K and get a 5930K, and sell my 780Ti and get a 880. This will be my first rig and I will blow all my money on it, because I can't upgrade anytime soon, so I want it top end right away.

In reality, if you're looking to play games, you PC is more than fine for the next two years.
I wouldn't touch Maxwell until next years refresh. Nv always releases the better card for the money the second time around.

Your playing games now instead of waiting for what could happen later this year.
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In reality, if you're looking to play games, you PC is more than fine for the next two years.
I wouldn't touch Maxwell until next years refresh. Your playing games now instead of waiting for what could happen later this year.

I wish I was playing games now, instead I am waiting to be able to pay for the rest of the components, so I am already waiting. Might as well wait til Q3
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