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I've got some big additions to my collection coming in soon, some of which y'all might be upset with me over. biggrin.gif

Also, I think I ruined the optical drive of my Sega CD while re-capping it. There's a nice, shiny scorch mark from a soldering mistake that touches a trace or two. The spindle still doesn't spin and now it makes a soft clicking sound, presumably from the laser carriage hitting the barrier. I guess at this point I can't do any harm, so I'll keep messing with it. tongue.gif
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I have all the inputs figured out except component, it's not really a space thing. The PC will be on the home network as well, the motherboard has built in Wifi w/ antenna. Also, the PC will be used for processing so I don't have to tie up any of my other PCs. I've also got a Q1900m and an old Dell slim type PSU that should fit in an old Xbox cases I have been saving, going to use that for Steam streaming, some retro PC games, as well as some emulators for stuff like MAME, mostly so I can play the Metal Slug series lol My girlfriend and her son get most of my hand-me-down hardware, so this is all just stuff that wasn't being put to use by anyone in the house. It's funny I am going through all the trouble to record retro stuff though...back in the day, use to just hook systems up through the VCR and record things that way lol I was also thinking the recording PC might also be nice in that it would allow me to use any number of old CRT monitors I have, instead of the TV I am currently using. I have a 22" CRT that would look nice with all my systems hooked up to it. Not sure if that will work though due to input lag, which I imagine will be pretty substantial on this older hardware. Only one to find out though...

I would recommend if you want to play Metal Slug (or any other Neo Geo game) you use the emulator Final Burn Alpha instead. Much better emulation and more features. It also supports CPS1, CPS2, Cave shmups, and some Sega arcade boards.
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Also, I think I ruined the optical drive of my Sega CD while re-capping it. There's a nice, shiny scorch mark from a soldering mistake that touches a trace or two. The spindle still doesn't spin and now it makes a soft clicking sound, presumably from the laser carriage hitting the barrier. I guess at this point I can't do any harm, so I'll keep messing with it.

Sounds like a lost cause =/ At this point I would simply recommend picking up a model 2 Sega CD from Amazon. It will be about $100. You should be pretty much guaranteed to get a working one this way, though it will be more expensive. Amazon has a great return policy if you have a problem. The prices on this stuff just keeps going up so, now is the time to get it as cheap as you can. Numerous games I've bought in the last few years have just kept going up in price, and I could get over $200 for my Model 1 Sega CD that (mostly) works.

If you just want to play the games, I'd recommend the emulator "Gens". It supports Sega CD and afaik it supports memory cart files (e.g. for Shining Force CD). I got my working Model 2 CD for $60 at a local shop three years ago, and I got a RAM cart recently for $45. On top of that is the cost of the games (enormously expensive) OR other media (I use Verbatim CD-Rs). That's a lot of money to play games you can simply emulate. If someone wanted to get into Sega CD games I think I would recommend emulation over the real hardware + cost of games. frown.gif

Either way, if you try and fix it, best of luck to ya.
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Sorry for double posting, but Mega Man wants to get an arcade stick for PC, except we were talking about it in the Wii U thread LOL.

The one he's looking at is this: http://www.razerzone.com/store/razer-atrox-xbox-one

It looks really solid but my argument is the price tag, and that for the same price you could have a custom made one from an artisan on shoryuken.com forums. It's a matter of personal choice but here's mine, made 5 years ago by Kaytrim's Kustoms (no longer around):





Any of you guys into arcade equipment or fighting games? MAME cabs?

I grew up LOVING arcades, they were my favorite place to go, and now they're gone. The last arcade in our town closed down about 3 years ago (it sucked anyway- mall Cyberstation). I can recall all the arcades we used to have here in Madison. I used to go to Street Fighter tournaments and played with some of the best players in the country in some of the games. And I've been playing SF in the arcades since 1992 or so. Besides that, I love all the vintage arcade machines. I really got into emulating the golden age games that I missed out on when I was in high school- Pac Man, Donkey Kong, Galaga, Defender, Joust etc. I was born in '84 so that was after the video game/arcade crash. I missed the height of popularity of the golden age of arcade games.

I've been to quite a few modern arcades in the last 15 years. I've been to Capcom's Nickel City in Northbrook, IL. All the games run on nickels. Around 2002 it was the heart of the SF scene in Chicago, all the good players played there. But now, it's awful, and the last time I went last year they had gotten rid of all their good games. They replaced sit down Virtual On with ticket games mad.gif

I've also been to Galloping Ghost Arcade in Brookfield, IL, the biggest arcade in the US with over 500 games on the floor.

I was able to get to Family Fun Arcade in Granada CA before it closed. This was the biggest arcade for SF competition (primarily SFIII: 3rd Strike) on the West Coast and of course, I got destroyed but had some very good matches. They had like 15 back to back 3rd Strike machines. They also had a huge SF4 machine, an imported Melty Blood machine, and a bunch of Sega Astro City cabs with doujin fighters.

Anyway, yeah. Mega Man's arcade stick he's considering looks quite good.
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I've been contemplating building an arcade stick for almost year. Actually it may be an actual exact year since I first started researching building a mame arcade cabinet. I've had some delays, breaks, re-formations of ideas and...a few other things.

Your mentioning arcade sticks kind of brought it back up for me though. I had this idea I could use an old DDR mat (the gamestop brand with different console plugs) to wire up a stick. I mean rip off the mat, take out the circuit board, do some soldering and wire it up to the right kind of micro switches. So simple. [sic]. I actually have all the ingredients just need the time and commitment. And probably re-calibrate my soldering iron.

Oh, and the actual wood working. Don't know anything about that. Minor detail.

Obviously it would a universal arcade stick for gamecube, PS1/ps2 and original xbox. Would have to find a PC or PS3/360 one for a PC stick. I mean assuming it even worked. Although I do have a original xbox-to-usb adapter from like 10 years ago. hmmm....

Good idea though, right? Nobody seems to want those DDR pads so they're super cheap at thrift stores. And they have all the inputs except the sticks. Only thing else that has the controls and are super cheap...the stupid skate board things from Tony Hawk's Ride. Unless used 360 pads have finally come down in price. Not sure.
 
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A few years ago, around the PS2 era, everyone used original Playstation controllers, non-dual shock. This one:




That's what is inside my stick.

Supposedly the PCBs in those, compared to something with analog sticks, are incredibly reliable.

You could do it with a DDR mat, probably, assuming the PCB even has the contacts for the d-pad. I'm not familiar with those so I don't know how they work.

I'd say, if anything, you need to go out and buy one and rip it apart, and then you could at least find out if it's doable or not.

Woodworking is not really a problem. You could just cannibalize a box from another arcade stick. You could use the Tekken 5 anniversary stick seen here if you can find one cheap. By default, they are wired for PS2. The buttons can be replaced with Sanwa buttons and I think the stick can be replaced too. I have one of these laying around but, I ripped the art off it like 10 years ago and didn't treat the metal surface underneath so now the thing is literally all rusty.

You could also look into the Xbox 360/PS3 Street Fighter fightsticks made by Mad Catz around 7 years ago. Not the tournament edition one, the smaller one. This one should be even easier to modify because I'm pretty sure the button holes are 30mm. The Tekken 5 stick, the buttons are actually like 28mm so the holes need to be dremeled out.

So, having a box isn't the biggest thing if you get a second hand stick and gut it. While you're at it you could even paint it, take the old art off and use it for a template to print new art on glossy/sticky paper and attach it or glue it on.
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Sorry for double posting, but Mega Man wants to get an arcade stick for PC, except we were talking about it in the Wii U thread LOL.

The one he's looking at is this: http://www.razerzone.com/store/razer-atrox-xbox-one

It looks really solid but my argument is the price tag, and that for the same price you could have a custom made one from an artisan on shoryuken.com forums. It's a matter of personal choice but here's mine, made 5 years ago by Kaytrim's Kustoms (no longer around):





Any of you guys into arcade equipment or fighting games? MAME cabs?

I grew up LOVING arcades, they were my favorite place to go, and now they're gone. The last arcade in our town closed down about 3 years ago (it sucked anyway- mall Cyberstation). I can recall all the arcades we used to have here in Madison. I used to go to Street Fighter tournaments and played with some of the best players in the country in some of the games. And I've been playing SF in the arcades since 1992 or so. Besides that, I love all the vintage arcade machines. I really got into emulating the golden age games that I missed out on when I was in high school- Pac Man, Donkey Kong, Galaga, Defender, Joust etc. I was born in '84 so that was after the video game/arcade crash. I missed the height of popularity of the golden age of arcade games.

I've been to quite a few modern arcades in the last 15 years. I've been to Capcom's Nickel City in Northbrook, IL. All the games run on nickels. Around 2002 it was the heart of the SF scene in Chicago, all the good players played there. But now, it's awful, and the last time I went last year they had gotten rid of all their good games. They replaced sit down Virtual On with ticket games mad.gif

I've also been to Galloping Ghost Arcade in Brookfield, IL, the biggest arcade in the US with over 500 games on the floor.

I was able to get to Family Fun Arcade in Granada CA before it closed. This was the biggest arcade for SF competition (primarily SFIII: 3rd Strike) on the West Coast and of course, I got destroyed but had some very good matches. They had like 15 back to back 3rd Strike machines. They also had a huge SF4 machine, an imported Melty Blood machine, and a bunch of Sega Astro City cabs with doujin fighters.

Anyway, yeah. Mega Man's arcade stick he's considering looks quite good.

I used to play at the several Circus and Aladdin's Castle arcades in the Twin Cities and some other places throughout the 90's until consoles took over. The weirdest experience I had during that time was at an arcade in Nassau Bahamas , there was a guy at the entrance that made you tuck in your shirt......everyone inside was wearing dress clothes too and they had nothing but old games so I left.

There is Wednesday Night Fights run by Valle in Cali, Ultra Arcade in Texas, and some others I'm forgetting for active big local scenes. I think with the resurgence of fighting games in 2016 with all the big franchises getting new titles there should be more active local scenes emerging all over.

I personally use VickoMods for mods and custom's, that is how I got my Atrox modded.

The Mad Catz SFV Chun LI TE2 is good too SFV http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16879216258&cm_re=madcatz-_-79-216-258-_-Product

The other Mad Catz SFV Fightsticks that come out next month are also in that link, I think I'm going to get a TES+ for a second fightstick.
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Originally Posted by neurotix View Post

A few years ago, around the PS2 era, everyone used original Playstation controllers, non-dual shock. This one:




That's what is inside my stick.

Supposedly the PCBs in those, compared to something with analog sticks, are incredibly reliable.

You could do it with a DDR mat, probably, assuming the PCB even has the contacts for the d-pad. I'm not familiar with those so I don't know how they work.

I'd say, if anything, you need to go out and buy one and rip it apart, and then you could at least find out if it's doable or not.

Woodworking is not really a problem. You could just cannibalize a box from another arcade stick. You could use the Tekken 5 anniversary stick seen here if you can find one cheap. By default, they are wired for PS2. The buttons can be replaced with Sanwa buttons and I think the stick can be replaced too. I have one of these laying around but, I ripped the art off it like 10 years ago and didn't treat the metal surface underneath so now the thing is literally all rusty.

You could also look into the Xbox 360/PS3 Street Fighter fightsticks made by Mad Catz around 7 years ago. Not the tournament edition one, the smaller one. This one should be even easier to modify because I'm pretty sure the button holes are 30mm. The Tekken 5 stick, the buttons are actually like 28mm so the holes need to be dremeled out.

So, having a box isn't the biggest thing if you get a second hand stick and gut it. While you're at it you could even paint it, take the old art off and use it for a template to print new art on glossy/sticky paper and attach it or glue it on.

For the DDR thing it's pretty much just a series of on/off switches wired together. The wires either go out to a mat or to buttons in a gamepad but it's all the same. Only difference might be latency or a differences based on the intended purpose. But really it should all be the same: on off buttons. Probably more soldering with a the DDR thing though (which I don't mind).

I was going to say I don't see much reason in buying a fight stick just to modify it to be a fight stick but then I remembered I bought two of these: (several months apart)

http://www.amazon.com/iCade-Arcade-Controller-iPad2-ICG05/dp/B008BGY2I6/


But when I bought them they were only $20. Eight buttons and a stick for $20 (and free shipping) is actually a really good deal. I mean for parts-harvesting purposes. This thing is actually a bunch of relatively high quality micro-switches all wired up to a bluetooth keyboard circuit board. The bluetooth part seems biased towards iOS devices. It's quite trivial to disconnect the wires and connect them to a different circuit board though. Like I said it was a lot more of a deal when it was $20 or so. At $50 may as well just buy a big bag of button/switches. Come to think of it if I sold my second one I could actually make my money back. Or like $5 after fees. hmmm.

I still want to make an actual cabinet-like thing anyway. I'm leaning more towards a "table top" right now. Just have to do the actual designing and layout of the thing. I have what I think is a usable PC/device, a 4:3 flat screen monitor with speakers. I guess it's more of a TV. But not very big. Like 15" or something like that (not that easy to find).

I'm still working on what I want to do for the the control panel of my hypothetical table top. I already decided I wanted to a track ball and I'm still trying to decide on a spinner. I found a web page that makes adapting a usb-mouse-but-with-a-ball to a spinner rather easy. If it's really that easy I don't think it'd be that big of a thing to add one.

Mine would only be a single control panel. I do have a plan for a second player but I don't want to share it until it's finished smile.gif

Oh and not that anybody asked but Slagcoin is a really cool site for designing a custom arcade control panel...
 
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Not really a context to post this. Just thought it was funny:
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LOL there certainly are a lot of those things dead, not a bad use for one.
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I've got some big additions to my collection coming in soon, some of which y'all might be upset with me over. biggrin.gif

I can't believe I forgot to update this. Here's my pick ups from Christmas to the second week of January.





And my Snatcher collection biggrin.gif





The model 1 CD took some maintenance (new fuse and a drive tray re-alignment ), but it works perfectly! I'm finally going to be able to play through all of Snatcher on real hardware instead of an emu. I got through about 70% of it on my model 2, but there's a really long cutscene that plays CDDA the entire time, so it always started skipping and would crash after about 20 seconds.
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