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surface mount stuff is really really easy

unfortunately the mods are really close minded, and deleted a post by JVG that had a link to awesome instructions, but they deleted it as he is no longer an artisian, i asked them to move it but they dont listen, big surprise, look at the crappy website "improvements" ( totally sarcastic !! imo the are all failures )

they are so so easy it is sad, i got a great soldering iron station for like 80-100, best investment ever, i couldnt solder before now it is so easy, that and good leaded solder and flux

I've been watching some SMD stuff, and it doesn't look too bad to be honest, but I haven't tried anything yet with my cheap iron. I do plan to get into some surface mount stuff too though, when needed. Just haven't yet. Nice to know it isn't that bad though. From what I understand, you don't really have to worry about bridges so much, you can just pull the extra solder away from the pins or whatever with your iron. I just always suspected it would never go as nicely as when you watch someone else do it lol I watch a lot of EEVblog though, and stuff like Ben Heck, so I was pretty confident I could handle it, just didn't want to recommend someone else give it a go without having any first hand experience myself. Also been watching some BGA stuff, would be neat to get a little reflow station setup one day too...
you are correct and a chisel tip
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@ Mega... yeah not very happy with the mods either and the site changes but I don't want to ruffle any feathers.

My hat says Overclock.net. That's what it will always be for me.

All I will say about this is that the site sure has changed a lot throughout the years...I still use the site as much as ever, but my use of it has changed as well. I miss the days of guys like Chozart and Syrillian being around, to mention a few. Nowadays, everyone seems to be looking for an opportunity to be an a-hole instead of an opportunity to share some knowledge with each other, or just be generally helpful. I've just been using this site for so long I couldn't imagine moving on somewhere else...the good still seems to far outweigh the bad, at least IMO.
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you are correct and a chisel tip

So you are saying I was right in needing a better iron before giving it a go? Or is a chisel tip something I can get for my cheap one? I do plan to get a better soldering setup eventually, but this one has been working fine for me so far. I actually have a really nice Snap On iron, with a few different tips, including chisel, but that's a heavy duty one meant more for auto stuff. I think it's like 450 watt or something lol EDIT - yep, Snap On R450B...
Edited by Aaron_Henderson - 1/28/16 at 8:12am
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@ Mega... yeah not very happy with the mods either and the site changes but I don't want to ruffle any feathers.

My hat says Overclock.net. That's what it will always be for me.

All I will say about this is that the site sure has changed a lot throughout the years...I still use the site as much as ever, but my use of it has changed as well. I miss the days of guys like Chozart and Syrillian being around, to mention a few. Nowadays, everyone seems to be looking for an opportunity to be an a-hole instead of an opportunity to share some knowledge with each other, or just be generally helpful. I've just been using this site for so long I couldn't imagine moving on somewhere else...the good still seems to far outweigh the bad, at least IMO.
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you are correct and a chisel tip

So you are saying I was right in needing a better iron before giving it a go? Or is a chisel tip something I can get for my cheap one? I do plan to get a better soldering setup eventually, but this one has been working fine for me so far. I actually have a really nice Snap On iron, with a few different tips, including chisel, but that's a heavy duty one meant more for auto stuff. I think it's like 450 watt or something lol EDIT - yep, Snap On R450B...

i help, or at least i feel i do, but i am blunt, most dont like that and consider me to be a jerk, or worse.

as to the soldering iron, i LOVE my setup, custom but close to this

http://www.ownta.com/gordak-952-digital-soldering-station-with-dual-leds.html

but it was custom built for @longroadtrip i heart it !

but no you can do smds with a relatively basic soldering iron, i recommend at least a mid level, personally ( something like a weller 100w or so )

and a chisel tip for SMDs, wish i could find those videos from JVC :/

here is or seems decent or you can use solder paste, sadly in his videos he described how to see if the solder is good or bad contact, and how to fix common screw ups


seriously that simple, i bet you didnt believe me ps that isnt a chisel tip but it is more or less the same, even with smaller pads !!!!

or you can spend several thousand dollars and get this

Edited by Mega Man - 1/28/16 at 4:24pm
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I did believe you lol Like I said, I like to watch that type of thing already, but like most things, it always looks easier when someone else does it. Good to hear from you that it really is that easy though, or has been in your experience anyway. I might actually have a go tonight on some junk stuff just to see what I can do with the iron I have. I think I have a spare tip kicking around I might even be able to grind down a bit into more of a flat on one side. I think that is what I am after with the chisel tip, right? Just to have a flat surface to work with on the tip? And that laser setup is awesome, almost instant solder flow, at incredible precision. But that's far beyond what I would ever need lol The most I was hoping to get set up is just a small reflow oven, mostly for console/electronic repair...perhaps some simple PCB stuff as I have also been studying a bit on cheap DIY PCB production methods. But again...likely mostly related to console and peripheral repair and modding.


Since learning basic soldering, I have saved myself a ton of money repairing junk I find in the trash or cheap "as is" stuff. I just got a monitor the other day for $7...well, my girlfriend brought it home for me, plugged it in...nothing. Opened it up, and there was an actual hole scorched right through the power PCB, right after the main power plug, but before the fuse. Checked the fuse, and it was still good...so thought about it for a sec, and figured I might be able to solder in wire to bridge over the hole (about 1cm squared), fired right up and have been using it for about a week now. Still don't know how that would have happened without blowing the fuse...all I can think is someone used the wrong power cord or a damaged one of something...even then....the hole is like the size a finger can poke through, with charred black all around it.


My next major project requiring soldering is to take the switches from the five of these boxes I currently use to keep all my consoles hooked up -

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/3-Port-AV-Composite-Audio-RCA-Phono-Selector-Switch-For-Video-Audio-Switching-/390616836662?hash=item5af293ea36:g:9FsAAOxy4fVTAvgE

And make a new single box to handle all the input switching. So that would be the 5 switches, I think 10 pins per switch (Video/L/Rx3+Ground) to 45 composite barrel plugs or whatever it's called. So 1 box, with a total of 15 complete inputs (can use Video/L/R on one input, or component + audio on two of the inputs). So not really too bad, but I drew up the wiring diagram since I will be ditching the PCBs, and it looked like quite a mess that would take quite a long time, so I have been putting it off for some time now. I could just buy an input switch, but that would be costly to get one with this many inputs. And I already have the parts, just need to do the work.

And don't worry, I wasn't implying you are a jerk tongue.gif But there are a few around here redface.gif
Edited by Aaron_Henderson - 1/28/16 at 5:43pm
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oh no, but i am just blunt !

but no i mean this tip

second from the left
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oh no, but i am just blunt !

but no i mean this tip

second from the left

Thanks for the pic, that helps, as there are a few different styles of chisel tips.
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I'm totally gonna watch those videos and learn how. I need something to do other than video games. Also trying to learn basic conversational Japanese.

Here's a question: have you guys ever burned yourself soldering?

I imagine it probably happens sometimes.
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I'm totally gonna watch those videos and learn how. I need something to do other than video games. Also trying to learn basic conversational Japanese.

Here's a question: have you guys ever burned yourself soldering?

I imagine it probably happens sometimes.

Easy to do...especially when you are trying to place a part and your fingers are too big....you get used to it though...


Mega...Happy to see you are still happy with that unit after a year of use. I need to order more...

My solder station is the same...

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I've seen your setup in the post your computer room thread, and I must say you have done an awesome job with the garage/workshop there, longroadtrip. Would love to have something like that one day.
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Originally Posted by neurotix View Post

I'm totally gonna watch those videos and learn how. I need something to do other than video games. Also trying to learn basic conversational Japanese.

Here's a question: have you guys ever burned yourself soldering?

I imagine it probably happens sometimes.

A few times...the iron is usually hot enough it just melts a bit of skin though and rarely hurts much, unlike some burns. Certainly wouldn't let it dissuade you lol
Edited by Aaron_Henderson - 1/29/16 at 10:35am
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