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That's Pocket Monsters Green (Pokemon Blue). I don't know why it has a II. But, if you try playing it and it's first gen Pokemon, then yeah, it's Pocket Monsters Green.

I will add you to the club tomorrow, it's late here. I can type a longer response then too.

And that's a fantastic collection of systems.

The DS lite is from 2006, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_DS_Lite not 2002. In 2002 the Game Boy Advance was pretty much brand new. However, it qualifies as a retro game system because it's almost 10 years old and it's not the current generation. (It's not a 3DS/PS Vita). I think the original PSP, especially the fat model, would probably qualify as retro at this point, and yes it's from 2005.
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So are new members still being added? Just wondering because I haven't been added to the list.

Also, I bought some old Atari XE and Atari 800 games. Actually I may be getting an old Atari 800 system from a friend. The pic he sent has it caked in dust (years in the garage) though so it may need some restoring if it even can be made to work. I'm just assuming it doesn't.

I also ran across an Odyssey 2 cartridge for the first time. Bought since I had never seen one before. And a Texas instruments cart or whatever, "command modules". Not a game I don't think (it's called "Division"), just thought it was interesting. And for $0.25, why not right?
Sorry, this probably isn't a "pick ups" thread. Just thought that TI and Odyssey thing was of note.
 
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Sorry, yes new members are being added, but I forgot about your post and this thread.

You typed a lot to reply to and I've been busy with other threads and activities, I was also out of town recently. I'm not really inclined to reply to everything you wrote.

This thread didn't take off like I hoped, and has had very slow activity for the last year, so that's the reason it doesn't get my attention.

I added you with a simple placeholder.

If you could come up with a list of the systems you own, separated by commas, I will add everything to the original post. The way you typed it, it's all done with bullets and I'm not going to go through and figure out everything you own and put it into a brief list with commas like everyone else.
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It's okay if you can't reply to everything, I know I wrote a lot. Just wanted to make sure I was "in the club".

Also Here's my list of consoles. Might have got lost in the giant block of text. Yes, I actually own all these (well a Retron for the NES but close enough). Some I even own variants rolleyes.gif
Let me know if this isn't what you wanted.

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Since this is the directions from neurotix, here's my list with commas:

NES, SNES, GameCube, N64, Sega Saturn, Dreamcast, PS1, PS2, Gameboy, TG16, Jaguar, Atari 2600, Atari 5200, Atari 7800, GBA SP, PSP, NDSLite

Edit: forgot I picked up an original xbox on sunday. For $3. Insert than in smile.gif
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I have a little time, so I can remark on some of the stuff you said, to try and get a little more conversation going...

I should look into updating/adding to some of the posts below the original posts with convention information etc.

Did you test the Pokemon cart? Even if it's in Japanese it should be pretty obvious if it's actually Gen 1 Pokemon or not. If you aren't familiar with Pokemon and have never played it, then find a playthrough of NA Pokemon Blue on Youtube and compare the two.

Atari 800 I know almost nothing about. That's an 8-bit computer right? Those were a little before my time (born in 84). I didn't really grow up with Atari. Though, in high school I was curious about the 2600 and loved games a lot, so I emulated the 2600 and tried all the popular games, and now I have an Atari Flashback. 8-bit computers were more popular in Europe than America in the early 80s afaik. I think the Commodore 64 was pretty big here, and the IBM PC but that's about it. Europe (especially Britain) had a ton of 8-bit computers like the Amstrad CPC and ZX Spectrum, along with the C64 and all the Atari computers.

NES, no comment really, there's no excuse not to own a real NES as you can get one for about $20 last I checked. Scope out garage sales or Craigslist. The retron things are imo, junk.

The SNES model 2 is really cool, and fairly rare to find. I just have a model 1. Crazy that you had SMRPG and Super Metroid and got rid of them! You might want to keep your eye on this, apparently Gamestop is selling retro games online now and the prices they have listed are crazy! $49.99 for SMRPG, I think it goes for over $100 on Ebay. I don't have many SNES games either because, collecting for it is a little too rich for my blood. I have around 15 games. Mostly the ones I had as a kid. I have my Final Fantasy 2 and 3, SMW, Super Mario Kart, Yoshi's Island and a few others. The other day I finally gave in and paid out for Chrono Trigger, I've wanted a physical copy of it again for years now. $115 with shipping. I might have to put it in a safe or something. wink.gif I'm not sure how I feel about that, or how I feel about some games (Super Metroid, Castlevania IV, Contra III) being $60... I can recall around 2000 that used copies of those games were like $10-15 a piece. Retrogaming is getting too expensive.

PS1, PS2, meh... great memories of PSONE and all the rpgs (my favorite genre), one of my favorite games of all time is Xenogears. Collecting for it though? Too expensive... my PS2 is modded, so both systems are "taken care of" for me.

N64: I recently sold mine, or traded it in rather. I got $70 for Smash Bros on Amazon. The games I traded in were two Tetris games and Goldeneye. At one point I had Mario 64 too, but traded it to a guy (now dead) for a bag of ganja. That was a long time ago, I've quit. Overall: N64 has like no rpgs. All the rest of the games are platformers. I'd take a Saturn or PSONE over the N64 any day of the week. Funny thing: around here N64 is really hot right now. Everyone seems to want one, and the games for it, especially Ocarina of Time. The games shop I go to has more N64 stuff right now than I've ever seen and the owner (I know him well) is making a lot of money off selling complete OoT copies. I wonder why this is?

Game Boy: I'd like to have an original one too. Nuff said. I got a Game Boy Color and a few games for it for my N64 trade in (I also traded a few crappy SMS games).

Saturn: Now we're talking. It depends on what genre you like, but I can recommend games for it. Though, you might want to consider swap trick shenanigans, since most of the really good Saturn games are ludicriously expensive. I LOVE this system, but sorry I'm not paying $150 for a copy of Dragon Force (my favorite game on the system). There's some really great exclusive RPGs for this machine, and the other pull is the quality SEGA arcade ports (which should be cheap enough to acquire).

Dreamcast: Even better than the Saturn and totally worth investing in, and right now most of the games are cheap. I can compile a list with descriptions if you tell me your favorite genres. There's obvious big ones like Sonic Adventure 2 (much better than the first one), Phantasy Star Online etc. There are numerous quality (actually, identical) arcade ports from Naomi hardware, like Crazy Taxi, Dead or Alive and others. But also, this system was known for three things among hardcore gamers: very high quality 2D fighter arcade ports (from Capcom and SNK), very high quality 2D shooters, and the homebrew scene (emulators: you can make this thing play NES and Genesis games at full speed.) You can even run Linux on it and it has an official keyboard and mouse, it even goes online. I'd say, pick up a controller or two as well as a VMU or memory card, and start collecting games for it. It's worth it.

Jaguar: The Jaguar flippin' sucks. Sorry. That's my opinion.

TG-16. Most wanted system for me but far too expensive. I'll have to be content emulating it on my modded original Xbox. If I could get the Star Soldier games, a multitap, and the console I'd be very happy. But that would literally be hundreds of dollars.

PSP: Fantastic. I love this thing more than any other handheld. So many good RPGs. And it emulates every handheld that came before it.

Gamecube: Don't have one. Kind of an underwhelming system imo. Nothing that's must have for me.

GBA SP: I need a GBA since as part of my recent N64 trade, I got a complete in box Final Fantasy Dawn of Souls.

Atari stuff: Can't find any of that around here and I'm not going to go out of my way to get one online or anything. Partly because it's before my time, but also because everything after the 2600 sucked (and I have an Atari Flashback with most of my favorite 2600 games on it.)

Don't feel compelled to reply to everything I said, but there you go, those are my thoughts. smile.gif
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I actually don't know anything about Atari 8-bit either. I'm a little older than you but my family never got a computer (not until a 386 PC in the early 90s that is) so I didn't know even know about all that Atari PC stuff. And my first console was an NES so I never even had a 2600 or any other. I think my daycare may have had an atari. Seems like I have vague memories of Pole Position or Grand Prix. I don't know.

My dad actually bought me that Saturn inexplicably one day at a flea market. I never really like it that much. All the cool kids seemed to have a playstation. There were some good fighting games for it and I must have playedt hat demo of Nights into Dreams a thousand times (the Saturn was one of the first if not the first to have a battery backed clock so...in December Nights into Dreams changed on its own to a xmas theme. And changed back in January. Amazing, right?) I actually bought the "3D controller" with the stick later on. But never got did get to play nights with the analog stick.

I don't know actually have any fond memories of the PS1, I bought it in 97 but didn't really get motivated to start buying games. Guess PC was the thing by then. And my new N64.

And I kind of regret not buying a PS2. I mean damn, that thing lasted like 12 years. Would have been a good investment. Except $12 for 8MB memory cards? Really? (lol)

As for getting rid of games I kind of wanted to collect them. Have an impressive series of shelves with games from different eras. I don't know if I'll actually play the physical copies or not. Probably leave that to emulation. The cartridge-based ones anyway. The only reason I even collecting PS1/PS2 is because those games are so cheap. People almost pay you to take them. And thrift stores almost always mix in PS1 games with audio CDs and sometimes the poor teller doesn't know the difference. Maybe 20 more years PS1/PS2 stuff will start to go back up in value. Hopefully all my discs survive until then...

Feelings on the original xbox are about the same as the PS1/PS2: none one way or the other. I forgot to add it to my list actually: found a working original xbox with the hookups for $3. Horray for that. Tried Black which I had heard so much about. I think I can see why it's somewhat highly regarded. Now all I have to do is figure out how to run home brew. Hopefully there's a softmod. I'm not really clear on that possibility.

For the PSP I did softmod that to run home brew. Seems to choke on a lot of the SNES games I try to play. Funny in can run PS1 games but chokes on SNES. Probably just not an optimized emulator. Trivial knowledge on the PSP, if you look at the specs they're almost the same as the first iphone...except PSP is a MIPS versus the iphone's ARM. Outside that same resolution screen and everything. Just poor timing for the PSP I guess. Would a "PSP Go" be worth owning? I mean I don't think you can actually do anything with it, just own it. Hang it on a wall tongue.gif

I haven't really stressed my Retron Duo yet but it seems okay so far. If nothing else the TV/audio connectors are much easier to deal with.
 
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I actually don't know anything about Atari 8-bit either. I'm a little older than you but my family never got a computer (not until a 386 PC in the early 90s that is) so I didn't know even know about all that Atari PC stuff. And my first console was an NES so I never even had a 2600 or any other. I think my daycare may have had an atari. Seems like I have vague memories of Pole Position or Grand Prix. I don't know.

My dad brought me home an Atari one time when I was a kid, and we lived in Maine. He got it because of how much I loved Nintendo. He found it at a garage sale, from what I recall. He just surprised me with it one day. It came in a HUGE wood cabinet about 4 feet tall that almost looked like an old stereo with the record player on top. But the inside had all this plastic molding to fit cartridges. It must have had at least 50 games inside it. Anyway, I'm pretty sure it was a 2600. We hooked it up and, it didn't work frown.gif I think since it didn't work, he threw the whole thing out and took it to the dump. Idiot. I couldn't stop him, though. Yeah...
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My dad actually bought me that Saturn inexplicably one day at a flea market. I never really like it that much. All the cool kids seemed to have a playstation. There were some good fighting games for it and I must have playedt hat demo of Nights into Dreams a thousand times (the Saturn was one of the first if not the first to have a battery backed clock so...in December Nights into Dreams changed on its own to a xmas theme. And changed back in January. Amazing, right?) I actually bought the "3D controller" with the stick later on. But never got did get to play nights with the analog stick.

Yeah, I know about Nights and Christmas Nights. It's too bad you don't like the Saturn. It's a niche system. If you like RPGs, it's a great system, it was also great in it's time for 2D fighters (see a theme here?) Most people are familiar with it for it's arcade ports, like Daytona USA (awesome) and Virtua Fighter 2 (meh). You just need to look into the library more. I could make suggestions if you tell me what kind of games you like.

A few years ago I got one of the funny Saturn 3D control pads too. It even came in the box and had a card to send in to Sega. It's like a prototype Dreamcast controller, but better than the DC controller because it has a better D-pad and 6 face buttons, and no terrible triggers.
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I don't know actually have any fond memories of the PS1, I bought it in 97 but didn't really get motivated to start buying games. Guess PC was the thing by then. And my new N64.

And I kind of regret not buying a PS2. I mean damn, that thing lasted like 12 years. Would have been a good investment. Except $12 for 8MB memory cards? Really? (lol)

Again, I'd take PS1 over N64 any day. PS1 had the last good Final Fantasys. So, yeah, when I was 12-16 or so and wasn't in school, FF all day. That's the kind of gamer I am.
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As for getting rid of games I kind of wanted to collect them. Have an impressive series of shelves with games from different eras. I don't know if I'll actually play the physical copies or not. Probably leave that to emulation. The cartridge-based ones anyway. The only reason I even collecting PS1/PS2 is because those games are so cheap. People almost pay you to take them. And thrift stores almost always mix in PS1 games with audio CDs and sometimes the poor teller doesn't know the difference. Maybe 20 more years PS1/PS2 stuff will start to go back up in value. Hopefully all my discs survive until then...

Gonna have to disagree a little here. Why have all the systems and games if you aren't gonna play them? I kind understand collectable fever, and the monetary value of physical copies, as well as displaying a collection nicely. But, um, I have a crapload of systems and a decent collection of games and I play all of them. They're better because you can use the actual controllers for the systems, like the Saturn pad you love, and Contra on anything other than an original square NES controller is just weird. Also, emulators for a lot of systems are buggy or incomplete, some are very slow, have poor accuracy, and poor compatibility. The biggest example is Saturn, it's very difficult to emulate, and thus it's just easier to play the actual system if you have it.

There's exceptions of course, the TG-16 emulators are very good (there's even one that runs full speed on PSP). TG-16 stuff is WAY too expensive for me, like I said. So I have no choice. But if I have a game and the original system, I prefer that. I used to not care when I was in high school and I emulated everything, and didn't have any of my original systems. I was also broke for a long time and couldn't afford retro games, but I have a wonderful fiance that shares my interest and.... well she's my sugar mama. So now, a lot of the games I like, I can play on the real hardware.
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Feelings on the original xbox are about the same as the PS1/PS2: none one way or the other. I forgot to add it to my list actually: found a working original xbox with the hookups for $3. Horray for that. Tried Black which I had heard so much about. I think I can see why it's somewhat highly regarded. Now all I have to do is figure out how to run home brew. Hopefully there's a softmod. I'm not really clear on that possibility.

The original Xbox, I think the games for it kinda suck. I don't even use mine for the games it has. I use it as an HTPC and emulator box. You can emulate any system you want on it, even the PS1 and N64 (with sound!). Just watch this video:

Mute the French or whatever he's talking if it's annoying. But yeah, my Xbox is basically set up like that.

I've got full romsets for probably 10 different systems (all the early 90s stuff) with video previews and box art for each game.

If you want more info on this, we'll have to take it to pm's. *wink*
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For the PSP I did softmod that to run home brew. Seems to choke on a lot of the SNES games I try to play. Funny in can run PS1 games but chokes on SNES. Probably just not an optimized emulator. Trivial knowledge on the PSP, if you look at the specs they're almost the same as the first iphone...except PSP is a MIPS versus the iphone's ARM. Outside that same resolution screen and everything. Just poor timing for the PSP I guess. Would a "PSP Go" be worth owning? I mean I don't think you can actually do anything with it, just own it. Hang it on a wall tongue.gif

PSP is an excellent system. Try and find the emulator literally called [e]mulator. It does Game Boy, Game Boy Color, Game Gear, Lynx, Turbografx 16, NES, Wonderswan Color and a few others. That in conjunction with gPSP Kai (Game Boy Advance) will let you play most handhelds that came before it, at least all the ones that were popular in the 90s. They all run full speed too.

The reason it can play PS1 well but not SNES is because the PS1 emulation is actually done by Sony, and I believe there is some hardware to support it. It's POPS.

If you're using SNES9x TYL, the issue is basically that SNES9x sucks and is slow. Back in the day, I had a AMD K6-2 350mhz and SNES9x ran slow on it. Keep in mind, the PSP only does 333mhz max. I always used ZSNES for SNES games because it ran much faster, and had platform specific assembly optimizations and speedhacks to make it run faster. Unfortunately, I don't think anyone ported ZSNES to PSP.

Try any of the NES, Turbografx or Genesis emulators and you'll find they run pretty much perfectly. It's just that particular emulator.

Heck, I have NFBA on my PSP with Espgaluda, Dodonpachi Daioujou and a bunch of other intense, crazy Japanese shooters from beefy arcade hardware, and it runs great. Also have one for Neo Geo and it runs Windjammers well.

Even got MAME with mostly classic arcade games (80s era).

There's plenty of stuff to emulate on psp besides the SNES. wink.gif

Finally, let me know what types of games you like (genres), so I can make suggestions of what to get. smile.gif
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Outside of that short period of learning Killer Instinct I'm not really into fighters. Right now at least I'm not that into RPGs because I can't really afford a time sink. So my preference would probably be a very vague "action" genre. Maybe arcade racer as well (all I mean by "arcade" is "not a simulator" like forza/. Doesn't need to literally be a port of a sega arcade game). Something I can play for no more than an hour and it's not so complex I have to re-learn a bunch of stuff from scratch if I don't come back for 6 months. And I had no idea there were good RPGs for Saturn. I thought most all of them were for PS1 from that time period. Unless you're talking Japanese imports. I might mention I never bought a memory card for the saturn so that might be an issue. It's really hard for me to get excited about the Saturn. I do love the original larger game pads. Those shoulder buttons are awesome. I do have fond memories of Sega Rally. I would use the should buttons to shift up/shift down in races. Actually it seems like the port of command and conquer was incredibly good for Saturn too.

I was actually going to take that large Saturn gamepad apart and convert it to a USB game pad. Or a wireless PC game pad. It would be a fun project. Sacrilege, I'm sure. But it is just collecting dust. I'm going to practice as an old third party wireless xbox game pad first. Then if that works try the Saturn one. I don't have a time frame for attempting to do this.

And I know PSP can emulate a lot of other systems. It was just SNES I was mostly interested in. The homebrew...firmware, whatever, that came with unlocking the PSP allows me to "over clock" to some higher speed on the CPU. It eats battery and doesn't seem to help that much. I just liked the idea of going back to playLink to the Past and Super Metroid but I obviously won't be doing it on a PSP. Haven't touched it for a while anyway.

I actually have a soft-modded Wii. That's the best place I can do all the old games i think. It has the advantages of also playing Wii and GameCube games.

There's really not any reason (at least for me in particular) for me to use an original xbox for emulation purposes. I take home my work's e-waste all the time. The XBox is literally a 15 year old PC so even if we're talking 2010 anything I can find will be better than that hardware wise. And it won't require a stupid xbox<-->female usb connector cable either (apparently required for homebrew convert process). The reason modding an xbox was such a big thing in 2003 or so is because it was effectively a gaming PC and much cheaper than you could otherwise get in 2003. Now that it's so many years later than benefit is gone. Only reason I really have to homebrew my xbox is to replace the hard drive (which I assume will die since it's 15 years old) and put the games on the hard drive. Which is easier than trying to emulate an xbox I think should hope. If I can't get the PS2 modded I'll probably try a PS1 emulator on it. Again, games I own so I don't have to worry about scratch discs or whatever. Would be so much easier to use the PS2 for PS1 though. No need for emulation that way, just right there in the hardware.

I actually a very-small-slimline PC I'm going to try and use as an HTPC maybe with either SteamOS or that "Kodi" OS. It's 3+ years old but will do everything that xbox can do but a lot better. And it has USB ports, how convenient. Only VGA and display port for video though so...I may have to buy another adapter. Or just use VGA.
 
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Outside of that short period of learning Killer Instinct I'm not really into fighters. Right now at least I'm not that into RPGs because I can't really afford a time sink. So my preference would probably be a very vague "action" genre. Maybe arcade racer as well (all I mean by "arcade" is "not a simulator" like forza/. Doesn't need to literally be a port of a sega arcade game). Something I can play for no more than an hour and it's not so complex I have to re-learn a bunch of stuff from scratch if I don't come back for 6 months. And I had no idea there were good RPGs for Saturn. I thought most all of them were for PS1 from that time period. Unless you're talking Japanese imports. I might mention I never bought a memory card for the saturn so that might be an issue. It's really hard for me to get excited about the Saturn. I do love the original larger game pads. Those shoulder buttons are awesome. I do have fond memories of Sega Rally. I would use the should buttons to shift up/shift down in races. Actually it seems like the port of command and conquer was incredibly good for Saturn too.

There some good, actually outstanding exclusive RPGs for the Saturn.

Dragon Force, which is a Shining Force style strategy RPG, is absolutely phenomenal if you like the genre. There's really nothing else like it. @jetpak12 can probably attest to this. It's sort of a cross between Shining Force and Ogre Battle but even that doesn't explain it. Go watch a video.

There's also Albert Odyssey, Panzer Dragoon Saga, Shining Force III (3 scenarios! All three have been translated into English now!), Shining the Holy Ark, Legend of Oasis, and Shining Wisdom (Zelda clone)...none of these are on competing systems to my knowledge and they're all great. (In English, too.)

The Lunar remakes, and the first Grandia were Saturn exclusives at first (Import only), but were later ported to the Playstation.

As far as action games go, try Die Hard Arcade, Daytona USA, Virtua Cop series, Dodonpachi port, Virtual On, Radiant Silvergun, Burning Rangers, Panzer Dragoon 1&2, Cotton 2 (import), Galactic Attack, and Guardian Heroes...
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I was actually going to take that large Saturn gamepad apart and convert it to a USB game pad. Or a wireless PC game pad. It would be a fun project. Sacrilege, I'm sure. But it is just collecting dust. I'm going to practice as an old third party wireless xbox game pad first. Then if that works try the Saturn one. I don't have a time frame for attempting to do this.

Sounds good. Fun project. For most games on Saturn, the regular controller is better anyway. It was just a gimmick for Nights.
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And I know PSP can emulate a lot of other systems. It was just SNES I was mostly interested in. The homebrew...firmware, whatever, that came with unlocking the PSP allows me to "over clock" to some higher speed on the CPU. It eats battery and doesn't seem to help that much. I just liked the idea of going back to playLink to the Past and Super Metroid but I obviously won't be doing it on a PSP. Haven't touched it for a while anyway.

Well, again, back in the day, emulators were slow + choppy. It's not a big deal to me. They run at probably 80% speed, if not more. Link to the Past and Super Metroid aren't exactly frantic games anyway. It's not like you're playing an overhead shooter and dying because it's choppy. The "overclocking" thing is basically B/S, most PSP games run at 333mhz anyway, and that's the highest you can set it in an emulator, and it's max specified clock speed. Overclocking it would actually be setting it higher than 333mhz.
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I actually have a soft-modded Wii. That's the best place I can do all the old games i think. It has the advantages of also playing Wii and GameCube games.

As do I, but the experience of emulation is better on an Xbox. See below.
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There's really not any reason (at least for me in particular) for me to use an original xbox for emulation purposes. I take home my work's e-waste all the time. The XBox is literally a 15 year old PC so even if we're talking 2010 anything I can find will be better than that hardware wise. And it won't require a stupid xbox<-->female usb connector cable either (apparently required for homebrew convert process). The reason modding an xbox was such a big thing in 2003 or so is because it was effectively a gaming PC and much cheaper than you could otherwise get in 2003. Now that it's so many years later than benefit is gone. Only reason I really have to homebrew my xbox is to replace the hard drive (which I assume will die since it's 15 years old) and put the games on the hard drive. Which is easier than trying to emulate an xbox I think should hope. If I can't get the PS2 modded I'll probably try a PS1 emulator on it. Again, games I own so I don't have to worry about scratch discs or whatever. Would be so much easier to use the PS2 for PS1 though. No need for emulation that way, just right there in the hardware.

I actually a very-small-slimline PC I'm going to try and use as an HTPC maybe with either SteamOS or that "Kodi" OS. It's 3+ years old but will do everything that xbox can do but a lot better. And it has USB ports, how convenient. Only VGA and display port for video though so...I may have to buy another adapter. Or just use VGA.

I hate to say it, but, you really don't know what you're talking about, since you haven't used a modded xbox.

The benefit to a modded Xbox is that the emulators all have the same skin, it looks like this:



Moreover, the skins support displaying box art, screenshots and video previews in the game browser, like in the screenshot.

Additionally, the xbox can do up to 1080i for emulators through component. I use mine at 720p on my 50" and it looks great.

The Pentium III 700mhz in the xbox is more than enough to do every classic console, as well as some 3D consoles, full speed. On top of that, it can emulate arcades- MAME as well as NFBA (Neo Geo/CPS1/CPS2) run on it, and support most arcade games up through 2002.

The other huge thing is that it has wired controllers with long cords.

In every way, it's the perfect emulation machine with a uniform interface across emulators.

On top of all that, it can stream online content through NaviX, and play video over a Homegroup network.

The downside is that it takes a lot of effort to set it all up. The box art and videos in particular are some hefty downloads, and you also have to upgrade the hard drive in it for space for them. It also has to be wired, because the xbox doesn't have Wifi. It also can only play video files that are 480p (though it will upscale them very nicely) unless you upgrade the RAM. (But I use a Chromecast to stream HD video anyway and it cost $35.)

I've softmodded my PS2, PSP, Wii and Xbox and out of all of them, the xbox was definitely the best investment of my time.

I tried putting Linux on a fat PS3 when I had one, and put emulators on it- it sucked. If you think the PSP is slow at SNES you should see a PS3 running Linux. Also, just getting the wireless controllers to work through bluetooth was next to impossible. I can't imagine getting as good of an experience as the xbox with a Raspberry Pi or something just because of the Linux support (Even in Ubuntu) of wireless bluetooth controllers. Also, I doubt there's any frontends for the emulators, or uniform skins for the individual emulators that are as nice and coherent on any other platform.

Also, that Kodi you mention.... Kodi IS XBMC. XBMC is what I use on my Xbox. XBox Media Center. They changed the name to Kodi because they no longer develop for the original Xbox. But yeah...what you want is basically what I have on my Xbox, except on an HTPC (especially running Linux) the emulators will be worse.
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Hi guys! I haven't read all of your most recent posts (lots of text!), but I'll chime in too.

Dragon Force - Yeah, that's a really rad game and very unique. I just tried it out with @neurotix one time and it is really impressive for the Saturn. The Saturn doesn't exactly have the biggest library of games, but it has enough exclusive games that I feel like its worth getting a console for. Especially since the Saturn is difficult to emulate, because of its strange hardware design.

Sega made official USB PC controllers designed after the Sega Saturn controller. There are a lot of clones on Ebay for really cheap that suck, but they are worth it if you want to just get the shell and the USB interface, since you can put in real Saturn controller components into it so it'll work right. The best official Sega USB controllers are literally Saturn controllers with a USB plug, but go for a lot of money. I got a later model official Sega one and there is definitely something different about it, it doesn't feel as responsive as it should, but it was as cheap as the knock-off clones, so I'm happy enough with it. I think you're talking about the 3D control pad though, which I suppose you could maybe take the USB interface from a USB controller to connect to the parts in the Saturn pad? Sounds like it should be doable, and a fun project. smile.gif

Xbox is a really cool system, my family got it when it was new, so I'm pretty biased, but I really liked the system when it was new and now. Only problem is that the DVD drives fail really easily, but soft-modding it and adding a big harddrive solves that issue by letting you store the games on the harddrive. I have some emulators on mine, and while I don't have a fancy interface like neurotix, it works really well and I haven't had any issues emulating any systems I've tried. The exclusives in general are all right to me, and I think the PS2/GC/Xbox ports look the best on Xbox in general (personal bias there). And I have a good collection of games since my brothers and I all bought games for it throughout its lifetime.

For an all-around emulation system I've comtemplated building a SFF PC, something like AMD's AM1 platform, or getting a Raspberry Pi 2. A little easier to get up and running than an original Xbox, but more expensive too (except for the Pi). I've been sticking with emulation on my main PC though for the most part.

Emulation on the PSP is really impressive, except for SNES support. Unfortunately, portable SNES emulation in general is quite poor. I've tried DS and PSP SNES emulators and neither can play the games too well. I suppose its just smartphones that can handle SNES, but then you don't have any real buttons. I'm really glad that PSP can do GBA emulation so well though, its really cool.

I've been really busy, but I'll try to pop my head in here from time to time (and reply to your PMs neurotix).

Happy retro-gaming!
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