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I read about that the other day, didn't watch the video. From what I understood he figured out you could run code after the CD drive and it wouldn't have to check the code then, something about bypassing the drm chip? Sure I'm not explaining that well.
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I read about that the other day, didn't watch the video. From what I understood he figured out you could run code after the CD drive and it wouldn't have to check the code then, something about bypassing the drm chip? Sure I'm not explaining that well.

End result is basically something like the Everdrive carts, only using the port for the VCD adapter, and using USB instead of SD cards. Optical drive can be completely ditched...I imagine it to be quite a bit before an actual product hits the market, but he's got everything working already. Now it's just a matter of getting something designed and put into production. I imagine it won't be cheap when something is released.
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Not sure how much demand there will be for something like that. Although I've heard the Japanese Saturn library is quite strong. Could be a "sleeper hit". Unless he starts it at $600.
 
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The first with limited motion controls?
Obviously you've never seen a little move called...The Wizard...

Powerglove. I'm referring to the powerglove. Also u-force. I don't know anything about Samba de Amigo Maracas though, no idea how it works.


Also I don't really understand the common tendency to go by which system is "powerful" as measure of value of a console. What could that possibly matter?? 3DO was more powerful that SNES, Gamegear/linx was "more powerful" than original Gameboy, XBox was "more powerful" that PS2, Wii was "less powerful" than Xbox and 360 (sold more). So it really, literally, is irrelevant what the hardware specs are, empirically, from observation.

Sorry for the rant. It's not really aimed at you, neurotix. It's just a developed pet peeve of mine I hear constantly on youtube etc. Like the hardware somehow matters on some level.

Also, what's the deal with GD-ROM anyway? It's like the betamax1 of optical media. More than CD, less than DVD e.g. even if Dreamcast had some modicum of success into 2005/2006 it may not have lasted much longer anyway because games would have to start coming on multiple discs (and no storage device like the 360 to compensate).

1In case anybody here is young: Betamax reportedly had superior video quality but could hold an hour of video (at least at initial release) while VHS could do two hours.

Powerglove, U-force and similar things might technically count as motion controls, but they hardly worked at all. The Maracas were fairly good controllers from what I've heard, just watch a gameplay video of Samba de Amigo if you want to see what they were like (you basically shook them in different positions to match the positions of different circles on the screen- somewhat like DDR and timing the arrows flying up instead they don't fly upwards). I honestly didn't think of the Powerglove. And to be honest, what I read about it having motion controls first was from a certain article talking about the DC and the things that made it revolutionary, so that's not even really my quote. Personally, I really prefer/like it for all the high quality arcade ports of Naomi games, the Sega exclusives and the 2D fighters/Capcom games (Power Stone etc)

As far as the power factor, my only point is that I heard once from developers for both the DC and PS2 that the DC WAS in fact a little more powerful, and easier to program for (since it ran Windows CE in some form). They stated that if games had continued to be developed for the DC, that eventually the 3D games would have looked better than the same game on PS2. I really have no idea how true this is but it's anecdotal, and at least it has some reasoning behind it that makes sense (the Windows CE thing).


I saw the Sega Saturn thing too and it's really neat, considering people are concerned about the CD drives burning out eventually, making their Saturn useless. As well as the prices on them pretty much being guaranteed to go up and up. Don't believe the sensational reporting though, one article I found basically claimed that there was no way to run backups or code on it "without an expensive modchip"... afaik modchips were never that expensive, you can probably still find them now, although they require soldering. This discounts totally the (extremely easy) swap trick and the solder-free method of opening the Saturn up and modding it (taping the lid sensors down) to enable the swap trick. rolleyes.gif

I'm not concerned about "damaging my laser" nor am I concerned about the CD Drive burning out/dying eventually because realistically, I don't play Saturn games every day and 99% of the time the Saturn is unplugged and sitting on a shelf. It gets used for a day or two once every few months. I think at this rate it will be a long time before anything on it burns out, so I'm not worried. And if I have to buy a new one, I will (or maybe just buy that mod eventually when it's available) but I doubt I'll need to.

It's still really cool what he did and he's basically a genius for figuring this stuff out as people have been trying to do things like this with the Saturn for a LONG time.
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This is interesting...



That is amazing. Thanks for sharing this

FYI afaik the power glove is not motion control it uses speakers and mics to listen to its position
Edited by Mega Man - 7/13/16 at 10:19pm
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That's pretty cool news. It also has a decent game selection if that list is accurate. No point for me as I own the majority of those games on cart.
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Meh, there are tons of that kind of thing out there already. Unless it plays actual NES carts of course, but I'm doubting it redface.gif I mean...my Mom would probably like this type of thing, but I have zero interest. Maybe if I had a huge collection I was struggling to add things to, I guess.
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Sega, please take notes. A "Dreamcast Mini" would be a killer way to re-release the Shenmue games and introduce people to some of the lesser known greats like Space Channel 5, Virtual-On Oratorio Tangram, etc.
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Looks interesting , Quick question - what are some good emulators for windows that do retro games ? I want to try some on my Pico ITX to see how it dose .
    
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