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Given that full x86 tablets have only started making a surge, it's only expected that the first implementations are going to be rough. In what other devices would you expect to use both mobile and desktop applications? Certainly not iOS or Android devices.

Microsoft tried pushing x86 tablets once. It failed, partly due to the fact that the systems weren't designed to be touch friendly. Now they're trying again, and went extreme in the other direction, most likely because of the previous failure. Ensuring a good touch interface most likely made them overlook the importance of integrating the two interfaces to complement each other instead of conflicting with each other.

If you set it to do local searches only, it doesn't send anything to Microsoft, or at least it shouldn't based on its wording when selecting the option. Control panel is a disaster... both the desktop control panel and Modern UI control panel should have full functionality. Instead, the desktop will throw you into Modern UI, and vice versa, which is plain stupid and one of my biggest peeves about 8.
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On a related note, allow me to leave this here
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Microsoft is going to allow OEMs to continue to build and sell new PCs with Windows 7 Professional preinstalled beyond October 2014, the original date that would have been the cutoff under the company’s normal sales lifecycle. But OEMs won't be permitted to build and sell new PCs with the consumer editions of Windows 7 after October 31, 2014.
Source: http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-extends-date-for-oem-preloads-of-windows-7-for-business-users-7000026362/ - where OEM Win 7 end date for businesses is "not yet established".

Edit: In a nutshell you will be able to buy Win 7 Pro even after Oct 2014 - It's just the "Home" versions that are going away.
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If any of you guys want a cleaner way to get to Control Panel items in Win 8, try WOLF. Has about 20 shortcuts built in.

Link in Sig.
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I would not hold my breath. As far as I have understood MS fully intends to keep the "Modern UI" (as it's called nowadays) for all future versions of Windows as well. My personal hope is that by the time Win 7 Pro extended support runs out the gaming on Linux would be good enough to switch or there is some clever start-up company that has managed to write a new OS that is fully capable of running all "Legacy" windows programs and has friendly enough UI.

So Win 9 will not be the savior of windows as desktop OS unless that new CEO of theirs does something radical.

And why is Modern UI getting better not a possibility?

All they would have to do is make folders get automatically created in the All Apps screen and the "modern UI" would be pretty much perfect...then all it would be is an enlarged Start Menu. There would be literally no difference.

Perhaps add a button to logoff, restart and shutdown that you don't have to perform some idiotic ritual with your mouse to use for those people that can't do anything without using the mouse. (but seriously, ctrl-alt-delete and pick sign out to log off and to shutdown/restart just tap your power button...I was doing that most of the time in Win7 anyway). In a VM you'll have to make a .bat file icon to use or install a tool, though. More evidence on how little MS cared about the professional world when they made Win8. It is just not friendly for that market segment.
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All they would have to do is make folders get automatically created in the All Apps screen and the "modern UI" would be pretty much perfect...then all it would be is an enlarged Start Menu. There would be literally no difference.

Perhaps add a button to logoff, restart and shutdown that you don't have to perform some idiotic ritual with your mouse to use for those people that can't do anything without using the mouse. (but seriously, ctrl-alt-delete and pick sign out to log off and to shutdown/restart just tap your power button...I was doing that most of the time in Win7 anyway). In a VM you'll have to make a .bat file icon to use or install a tool, though. More evidence on how little MS cared about the professional world when they made Win8. It is just not friendly for that market segment.

Yeah, automatic folders on the All Apps screen is a must too. Full Explorer capabilities inside the Start Screen would also be a huge plus.

Windows 8 was heavily consumer oriented, and almost seemed like a test/beta platform. Windows 7 was going to be enterprise/business until ~2018 anyways, it didn't matter what Windows 8 was like.
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I don't remember Plus Pack being released at the same time as Win 95, I was under the impression it came later and Win 95 wasn't great until Plus and a lot of the bugs went unfixed till 98 and SE. But it wasn't until XP and rolling updates that bugs started to be fixed anyway, as hardly anyone had internet back then. My original Pentium 133, 4MB RAM and Cirrus Logic 1MB video card struggled hard with 95 and generally speaking it was better to run DOS in many instances as Win 95 was seen by many as DOS with a demanding UI.

I was personally very weary of 95, I stuck with 3.1 as long as possible. When I finally did use 95 I really didn't care for it either, 98 was ok ... it wasn't till windows 2000 that I actually "liked" using windows again.
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do you guys recommend taking windows 8 over windows 7 at the moment?

i really like windows 7 but i hate the thought of windows 8.

it seems/sounds like a new OS to me.

for my new pc, (doesnt have any OS installed yet) do you guys recommend sticking with windows 7, (something im familiar with/fond of) or go with the new windows 8?
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do you guys recommend taking windows 8 over windows 7 at the moment?

i really like windows 7 but i hate the thought of windows 8.

it seems/sounds like a new OS to me.

for my new pc, (doesnt have any OS installed yet) do you guys recommend sticking with windows 7, (something im familiar with/fond of) or go with the new windows 8?

That's a highly subjective question and you will have to make that decision yourself. I personally chose to stay with Win 7 a bit over a year ago, a few months before I actually built my machine, since I was not impressed with Win 8 when it first came out. Win 7 will be around until 01/14/2020, longer than you are likely to keep your new PC.
     
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do you guys recommend taking windows 8 over windows 7 at the moment?

i really like windows 7 but i hate the thought of windows 8.

it seems/sounds like a new OS to me.

for my new pc, (doesnt have any OS installed yet) do you guys recommend sticking with windows 7, (something im familiar with/fond of) or go with the new windows 8?

Download a trial version of Windows 8 and try it out. That's my recommendation. Don't let the media influence your decision, make the decision yourself after you've tried it.
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Typical MS FORCING consumers to buy windows 8 by dropping all support for 7. Oh well im staying with 7 anyways

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