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Originally Posted by VindalooJim View Post

I think that's what I will do, thank you. I'll see how the NH-D14 manages first.

How effective is delidding?

Are you a vice or a Stanley blade delidder? tongue.gif EDIT: Just saw your avatar- I am guessing you use the Stanley blade method?

Stanley Blade yes, I de-lidded before the vice method was done or even thought of. It was around Christmas 2012 that I did it and it's still going strong!
I practiced on quite a few old CPU's (Pentium 4's, Celerons and even a E2140 I found) and I only killed one and that was me being careless. I got the majority of them free, or from upgrading my sisters/her fiances computers.

Obviously my i5 de-lid went well, and still is a year and three months down the track.

I remember the temp drop being about 25c on a Silver Arrow SB-E (very similar to a NH-D14, a bit better I think?)
Which i sold ages ago to go full custom water, which isn't up atm either #stock frown.gif

EDIT: To be honest it was some form of razer blade/cutting device refill that a mate flogged from school and gave to me... It makes me feel bad, but at least it was something cheap and put to a good use. smile.gif
Edited by Matt-Matt - 2/21/14 at 2:20am
 
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post #22 of 30
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Thanks for your input smile.gif It's always good to hear both "sides of the story" so to speak. smile.gif

I can definitely relate to what I highlighted in bold with my NH-D14!

The way I am seeing it atm is (feel free to correct me if I am wrong smile.gif ):

NH-D14 pros

Simple/ nothing to go wrong (worst case scenario a fan breaks)
Quieter? (Need confirmation on this)
No risk of a leak

NH-D14 cons

Takes up more space/ makes working inside the case awkward
Takes it's air from within the case so hot air from the GPU will have an effect on CPU temps


H100i pros

Looks sleeker
Takes up a lot less room inside the case so makes accessing stuff easier
Takes it's air from outside the case so hot air from the GPU will not have an effect on CPU temps

H100i cons

Risk of a leak
More stuff to go wrong (pump failing etc)
More noisy? Pumps, liquid etc (need confirmation on this)

This list is pretty accurate thought the noise I would say deserves a bit of focus. I run a Water 2.0 Extreme cooler on my rig. I use 4 fans, all stock for this cooler. Now logic would dictate that this would be noisy as the stock fans do make some racket at higher speeds. However by using a push/pull configuration I am able to run the fans in silent mode and this thing is uber quiet. In fact I can turn of ramping and run at a set low/quiet speed and easily cool the system. The so called pump noise is a minor issue if one at all and it if is so loud as to be a problem you need to RMA the unit.

As for risk of leaks, well the risk is there for sue with any liquid solution. I cannot testify to Corsair units but my experience with CoolIt, Thermaltake and Antec units have all been leak free even under long term usage.

I can say from my own experience over the years that I now only go with AiO if I am not going to use stock cooling.
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There might be higher volume flow aio coolers such as Cooler Master Neptune series, but once the circulating water heats up, the cpu temperatures start to gradually creep up. I noticed this in a recent CM 140XL review. At the start of the test, 140XL will be cooler, but the water inside can take more heat than the radiator unit can sink out, so after a time H100 is 7 degrees cooler. In that sense, H100 cannot be the best in this running debut of new coolers every season, but it definitely is a noticable landmark.
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You can use AIO water-cooler for a gpu. For cpu you can use a custom loop?!
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If you are happy with the cooling performance of your Noctua and its size does not affect you negatively (example cant add more RAM when you want), keep it.
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For a Corsair 350D would you: a) Stick with the NH-D14 or B) Buy a h100i?

For a CM 690 II would you: a) Stick with the NH-D14 or B) Buy a h100i?

The reason I ask is I currently have a NH-D14 & CM 690 II, however, for my new build (red dwarf) I am considering getting a 350D and H100i but would like to know which cooler would work best in both cases. smile.gif

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I think that's what I will do, thank you. I'll see how the NH-D14 manages first.

How effective is delidding?

Are you a vice or a Stanley blade delidder? tongue.gif EDIT: Just saw your avatar- I am guessing you use the Stanley blade method?

Deliding is great temps improved like crazy...yes there is a risk ext...i personally got mine done by a retailer so my warranty still intact "they call it ultracooling here"
coollabs pro/ultra is the best thermal paste in the world peroid,theres some under my HIS and above...deliding is kinda a easy process if you have a razor blade,some coollabs paste,
a steady hand and patience...Intel uses really poor thermal paste under the HIS,depending on your chip that will determine how effective the deliding will be the haswells particular get very hot as the chip pushes more poer through a smaller socket.

regarding the case the 350D is a very nice case but its rather small and modding aluminium is a bit more challenging than steel therfore is you can perhaps get something bigger thats more viable like a 750 or 900D...the 690ii series cases is a modders dream in my opinon and it supports full atx where a 350D is only micro.
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Actually intels paste is very good from what everyone who knows has said. It's the excessive use of the black goo glue that keeps the ihs from making proper and complete contact with the die.
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I just switched last week from an h100 with push/pull sp120's to an h110 with just the two stock fans in push and it performs better and is MUCH quieter! I got it for $109 form amazon prime.
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Deliding is great temps improved like crazy...yes there is a risk ext...i personally got mine done by a retailer so my warranty still intact "they call it ultracooling here"
coollabs pro/ultra is the best thermal paste in the world peroid,theres some under my HIS and above...deliding is kinda a easy process if you have a razor blade,some coollabs paste,
a steady hand and patience...Intel uses really poor thermal paste under the HIS,depending on your chip that will determine how effective the deliding will be the haswells particular get very hot as the chip pushes more poer through a smaller socket.

regarding the case the 350D is a very nice case but its rather small and modding aluminium is a bit more challenging than steel therfore is you can perhaps get something bigger thats more viable like a 750 or 900D...the 690ii series cases is a modders dream in my opinon and it supports full atx where a 350D is only micro.

I know you can delid a use the vice method in a matter of seconds but how long approximately does it take to delid using a razor blade?
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Actually intels paste is very good from what everyone who knows has said. It's the excessive use of the black goo glue that keeps the ihs from making proper and complete contact with the die.


Probably but intel never used to use paste the sandy bridge HIS is soldered to the die hence why it overclocked to well it conducted heat well cause it had a metal to metal contact
if you delid and use any decent high end paste and remove that black glue you will get better results even with GELIDS and MX4 paste....the coollabs liquid metal is the best though but its a nightmare to apply and it conducts electricity but performance in o.c is much the same to sandy cause its 100% metal alloy
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I know you can delid a use the vice method in a matter of seconds but how long approximately does it take to delid using a razor blade?
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it takes about 15-20mins,to remove HIS then clean and apply paste smile.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXs0I5kuoX4

done razor with results to prove it
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