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I think that Mantle is still a pretty cool idea and can only get better from here. I just hope that it gets widely utilized and adopted so we can see the true potential of it all...

You still think? lol

Every review shows lots of improvement.
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You still think? lol

Every review shows lots of improvement.
Well there is a lot more that Mantle offers that may take a while to utilize fully. It looks this good now, just wait till they get the whole of Mantle implemented in full detail.
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You still think? lol

Every review shows lots of improvement.

Why should they except the true, when they can deny, and spin? tongue.gif
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My BF4 Mantle still runs like garbage. For some reason when using the exact same settings as DX11 the VRAM usage is significantly higher when in Mantle. It gets past the 2gb of this 7870 XT instantly and stutters like crazy.

So I guess dice sort of fixed the memory leak?
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My BF4 Mantle still runs like garbage. For some reason when using the exact same settings as DX11 the VRAM usage is significantly higher when in Mantle. It gets past the 2gb of this 7870 XT instantly and stutters like crazy.

So I guess dice sort of fixed the memory leak?

You already stated what your problem is in bold.
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I know that's the problem. Yet in DX11 it doesn't and runs perfectly fine.

I'm not going to lower graphics settings just to be able to run Mantle. Why does Mantle have to consume more VRAM than DX11.
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I know that's the problem. Yet in DX11 it doesn't and runs perfectly fine.

I'm not going to lower graphics settings just to be able to run Mantle. Why does Mantle have to consume more VRAM than DX11.


Which program do you use to see Vram usage?
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You already stated what your problem is in bold.

So the problem is not Mantle, its his 7870 whistle.gif

isn't the purpose of mantle to help improve mid range cards and cpu performance?

Mantle still has a long way to go before, at this point its clear that it got over hyped and the Keyword was " Potential"
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HWiNFO64 or GPU-z. Look Mantle is great when it works but it still has problems in BF4, as does BF4 itself.

It's still beta and I accept that. Technically the only reason I bought BF4, at a significant discount, was to try Mantle out for my self. So far it has been a poor experience. Yes I could lower settings for lower VRAM usage but again I refuse to lower graphics settings to run Mantle when those same settings work great in DX11.

The improvement when it actually works is great. The starswarm bench shows great improvement on my system with Mantle. BF4 is just well... BF4.
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HWiNFO64 or GPU-z. Look Mantle is great when it works but it still has problems in BF4, as does BF4 itself.

It's still beta and I accept that. Technically the only reason I bought BF4, at a significant discount, was to try Mantle out for my self. So far it has been a poor experience. Yes I could lower settings for lower VRAM usage but again I refuse to lower graphics settings to run Mantle when those same settings work great in DX11.

The improvement when it actually works is great. The starswarm bench shows great improvement on my system with Mantle. BF4 is just well... BF4.

Oh right gpu-z. I should check my vram usage with Mantle in Bf4.
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So the problem is not Mantle, its his 7870 whistle.gif

isn't the purpose of mantle to help improve mid range cards and cpu performance?

Mantle still has a long way to go before, at this point its clear that it got over hyped and the Keyword was " Potential"

Uhhmmm no... Mantle is to remove cpu bottlnecks.

Your opinion is it got over hyped.

Reviews show that it delivered. biggrin.gif
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