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7870 XT's aren't regular 7870's though. We in the 7870 XT club kind of take offense to that. wink.gif

They're Tahiti LE's with 1536 shaders, 256-bit bus, and 96 TMUs. But the game/driver or whatever possibly thinking the card has 3GB VRAM is really making me think now.

ahhh, well that makes sense. My old card was the Windforce 7870ghz, with only 1280 stream processors. Also 256 bit bus.

You could probably get the 3DMark achievement for rare gear tongue.gif
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You essentially claim aftermarket 780Tis always game at full boost, that they essentially do not "boost", rather have that as native frequency. I'd say burden of proof is upon you for this one.

You said you wanted proof that aftermarket GTX780 Ti's can hold full boost, and when I proved that you are saying that these are overclocking results?? What !! rolleyes.gif
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No,these are overclocks (no overvolting though according to the article).

Maximum Overclock Comparison
Max. GPU Clock Max. Memory Clock
ASUS GTX 780 Ti DC II 1070 MHz 1910 MHz
EVGA GTX 780 Ti SC ACX 1160 MHz 1950 MHz
Palit GTX 780 Ti JetStream 1145 MHz 1900 MHz
NVIDIA GTX 780 Ti 1120 MHz 1975 MHz
NVIDIA GTX 780 1050 MHz 1865 MHz


http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GTX_780_Ti_Direct_Cu_II_OC/27.html

Let's call a spade a spade here. PCGH penalized the Ti, but what are you asking is to paint it in a better light instead.
You can't even differentiate between NVIDIA Boost 2.0 clocks and normal user overclocks, the normal overclocking results at the overclocking page of the review, those (what I posted) were factory shipped clocks.

Please go and learn how Boost 2.0 works before arguing.
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Useless (at least for most enthusiasts here),

-780Ti is locked to minimum boost (NV DX drivers being better with CPU overhead shows here btw since a 900mhz Ti is beating a 1000mhz 290X in BF4 of all things)

-1080p only (these cards are meant for higher resolutions)

-Stock last generation CPU

I don't really know why, but I was expecting your reply to be along these lines.

This proves that to the average high end gamer Mantle is an amazing performance leverage. They're basically getting a 40% free increase in performance.
   
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You said you wanted proof that aftermarket GTX780 Ti's can hold full boost, and when I proved that you are saying that these are overclocking results?? What !! rolleyes.gif
You can't even differentiate between NVIDIA Boost 2.0 clocks and normal user overclocks, the normal overclocking results at the overclocking page of the review, those (what I posted) were factory shipped clocks.

Please go and learn how Boost 2.0 works before arguing.

and you are arguing for 100mhz !!
you need to overclock 780ti up to 1600-1700 to be close to stock mantle 290x the gap is huge 70%
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and you are arguing for 100mhz !!
you need to overclock 780ti up to 1600-1700 to be close to stock mantle 290x the gap is huge 70%

Did I argue about the GTX780 Ti being underclocked by 100MHz ? No. rolleyes.gif
Did I even comment about the results? No. rolleyes.gif

I just answered a simple question of can an aftermarket cooled GTX780 Ti's hold full boost clock, yet you're making me like I'm arguing about the GTX780 Ti results, way to go. thumb.gif

Go back and read my only post in the thread.
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Why are these results so different from the other Mantle review results? Because they are using Win 7 and Win 8 gives a boost to DirectX? I don't think any of the other reviews showed 70% increases, many were in the 10% range. Even AMD never claimed 70%.
Edited by Forceman - 2/21/14 at 1:21am
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False results, a 780Ti do much more than 55fps AVG at 1080p Ultra
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Im all for Mantle and getting rid of DirectX, but this is the most BS results that i have seen in a while.

Truth is BF4 is just not CPU bound enough to make these kind of results, and definitely not at 1080p with 4xMSAA, lol.
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link delete ahahahaha
fake ? rolleyes.gif
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You'd need 1.7 times the performance a 780Ti is able to achieve on boost mode versus a non-boost 290X to match Mantle.

I have no clue what "boost mode" is. Sounds like some marketing jargon
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