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For new GPU buyers this review is irrelevant, high-end AMD cards are basically out of the question for gaming considering how much they cost right now.

And the reason to disregard the review just keep coming LOL.

FYI USA =/= World.

Also there are performance gains on even 270x.

Your i5 would see a nice gain also. biggrin.gif
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For new GPU buyers this review is irrelevant, high-end AMD cards are basically out of the question for gaming considering how much they cost right now.

America is not the only place with computers. doh.gif
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u Nvidia guys just missing the point.

With Radeon + mantle One could drop a pair of 290X run it @ 1080p and still not bottlenecking by CPU. Of cause, one would be wonder why run a pair of 290X in 1080p. Here is why -> games a few years from now will have much higher requirement that running 1080p on a pair of 290x is the only choice of keeping Ultra setting @ 60fps.

It means AMD GPU owners can get away from upgrading entire platform(CPU+motherboard+RAM), Since 4770K+ Radeon 390X/490X in mantle is probably gonna be as fast as Haswell 8 core with DDR4 on a Nvidia high end GPU 2-3yrs from now
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u Nvidia guys just missing the point.

With Radeon + mantle One could drop a pair of 290X run it @ 1080p and still not bottlenecking by CPU. Of cause, one would be wonder why run a pair of 290X in 1080p. Here is why -> games a few years from now will have much higher requirement that running 1080p on a pair of 290x is the only choice of keeping Ultra setting @ 60fps.

It means AMD GPU owners can get away from upgrading entire platform(CPU+motherboard+RAM), Since 4770K+ Radeon 390X/490X in mantle is probably gonna be as fast as Haswell 8 core with DDR4 on a Nvidia high end GPU 2-3yrs from now

One could say if amd cpu's weren't so anemic performance wise you wouldn't even need mantle in the first place.
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One could say if amd cpu's weren't so anemic performance wise you wouldn't even need mantle in the first place.

Because its normal to have single thread games on 2014
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I guess it could benefit people building budget gaming rigs could get a fx6300 and 290 with mantle
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I guess it could benefit people building budget gaming rigs could get a fx6300 and any GCN card with mantle
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One could say if amd cpu's weren't so anemic performance wise you wouldn't even need mantle in the first place.
I haven't had a problem yet. 60+ FPS with high to ultra settings on 7770x2. Maybe it is less to do with hardware and more with the knowledge or the seeking of it.
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One could say if amd cpu's weren't so anemic performance wise you wouldn't even need mantle in the first place.

Some don't need it. However some overclock their gpu to gain 2 fps in games.

Mantle supplies more even on the highest end cpu.
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Well, I just tried it out today for the first time in BF4 - and I was not impressed. Ran really bad on my GPU's. I went from 120~150 FPS in DX11 to 80~100 *stuttering* FPS.
Utilization on GPU's in:
DX11: GPU 1 (HD7970): 99/100 % and GPU 2 (HD7950): 70~80%
Mantle: GPU 1: 60~70% and GPU 2: 55% (perfect 55%, no kidding).
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I hope for it to get better in the future (especially inb4 Theif), so I really can be convinced by Mantle. Running the StarSwarm demo didn't quite convince me of it's effectiveness in real games.
    
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