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What is CLU?

And can't you just use 99% iso alch to remove stuck on fujipoly pads? what exactly makes them so hard to remove once they're worn in after usage?

I guess I'll just leave my card as it is then. 50c core and 44c VRMs is pretty amazing, right?

The pads, will they ever need replacing? I'm just a bit confused about the discussion here.

 

CLU is a liquid metal thermal material.  Arguably the highest performing thermal material there is.  It has it's limitations obviously because it is metal, and can have adverse reactions with heatsinks.  It 100% should not be used with an aluminum heatsink. It can make a very strong bond with copper, which requires heating up the surface to be able to remove the heatsink.  Nickel plated surfaces typically aren't problematic.

 

Yes, you could use high % alcohol or ArctiClean to remove the Fujipoly pads, you really don't have anything to worry about.  @tsm106 essentially feels that the pads are a waste of $ if you're not an extreme overclocker pushing your hardware to the limit.  But, it is your obligation if you want to spend the time and $ to install them.

 

44C for the VRM is a very good temperature already for VRM1.

 

The pads would only need replacing if A) you saw degradation in performance or, B) You removed the block and the pads were in a condition requiring replacement.

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Let me clarify what I mean buy one use application in regards to these pads. The fujis once applied dry out over time. This in and of itself isn't a problem, that is unless you want to transfer your block to another card. Most ppl don't do that often so it may not be a concern. But it's good or important to realize that once these cure which doesn't take very long, they harden and stick to whatever they were mounted to. The problem then is which part they stick to. In my case I move cards around a bit during my rigs lifetime. Thus I have to make sure that the fujis stick only to the block and not the card. If a pad sticks to say the memory ic and it is fully cured, the pad is really hard and crumbly and it is a big pain in the ass to remove. On top of this you have to keep the pads clean of debris and foreign gunk, because anything you get on them will reduce their effectiveness. Hence, big pain in the ass. They aren't like the stock pads which you be reused a handful of times (removed and reapplied) before they start to stretch out or tear.

Also, if you are using these a year down the line, and you notice temps rising. Open the block up and inspect for clogs or obviously corrosion first. If you remove the block, refer to paragraph above cuz you will then understand what I mean. Some block instructions say to use tim between pad and component, but if you follow this advice your pad will stick to your card which you don't want. I ignore ek's instructions on this part.
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anyone know the best thermal Adhesive pads/tape?
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anyone know the best thermal Adhesive pads/tape?

 

Best thermal tape I could come across, for listed specification, is JunPus T180, and it is rated at 1.8 w/mk. 

 

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=37756

 

I am using it on VRM2 for my Kraken AIO cooled card and it does a nice job even with no airflow across the heatsink for VRM2.  I haven't seen temperatures higher than low 60s on the VRM2. 

 

What are you looking to cool?  If it is something that generates a significant amount of heat, thermal tape may not be the way to go.

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Best thermal tape I could come across, for listed specification, is JunPus T180, and it is rated at 1.8 w/mk. 

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=37756

I am using it on VRM2 for my Kraken AIO cooled card and it does a nice job even with no airflow across the heatsink for VRM2.  I haven't seen temperatures higher than low 60s on the VRM2. 

What are you looking to cool?  If it is something that generates a significant amount of heat, thermal tape may not be the way to go.
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aftermarket VRM heatsyncs on a GPU cooler, the mk-26

 

From what I can tell from pictures of the cooler attached to a card, there is a decent amount of clearance underneath.  You should be able to put some decent sized heatsinks on the VRMs. 

 

If you're working with the reference ASUS R9 290 in your signature, then I would definitely suggest going with the Gelid R9 290 VRM heatsink kit...as long as there is enough clearance obviously.  Thermal tape is not going to hold up to the heat the VRM1 makes. 

MK-26 (Click to show)

 

Judging by this picture, I think there would be plenty of room for the Gelid kit.  If there isn't enough room, then I think that you should still try to use some sort of thermal pad with the heatsinks the MK-26 comes with.  Use zipties if need be, to secure the sinks in place.

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From what I can tell from pictures of the cooler attached to a card, there is a decent amount of clearance underneath.  You should be able to put some decent sized heatsinks on the VRMs. 

If you're working with the reference ASUS R9 290 in your signature, then I would definitely suggest going with the Gelid R9 290 VRM heatsink kit...as long as there is enough clearance obviously.  Thermal tape is not going to hold up to the heat the VRM1 makes.  MK-26 (Click to show)

Judging by this picture, I think there would be plenty of room for the Gelid kit.  If there isn't enough room, then I think that you should still try to use some sort of thermal pad with the heatsinks the MK-26 comes with.  Use zipties if need be, to secure the sinks in place.
theres an adhesive thermal pad on the stock mk-26, do you really think it wont be enough and ill have to get the gelid?
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theres an adhesive thermal pad on the stock mk-26, do you really think it wont be enough and ill have to get the gelid?
its this

 

You keep saying adhesive thermal pad.  Is it thermal tape, or thermal pad?  EDIT

 

I looked up the instructions for the installation and it appears to be adhesive thermal tape.  I don't think this is going to hold up on the R9 290.

 

The thermal conductance between tape and pad is quite drastic.  That JunPus T180 was the highest I could find @ 1.8 w/mk.  When you compare this to Fujipoly Ultra Extreme at 17 w/mk, there is a large difference.

 

That sink looks pretty weak compared to the Gelid one..and with minor investment of the Gelid sink, I think it would be worth it.

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gelid-CL-R9290-01-A-Enhancement-KIT-Rev-2-ICY-Vision-for-AMD-R9-290-290X-Board-/251569450428?pt=US_Video_Card_GPU_Cooling&hash=item3a92b52dbc

 

If you don't want to spend the extra $ at first, then you can see how the MK-26 works.  I don't think it is going to be sufficient for how hot the VRM1 gets on these cards, especially when Prolimatech doesn't have the R9 290 cards listed under compatibility.


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Originally Posted by Roboyto View Post

You keep saying adhesive thermal pad.  Is it thermal tape, or thermal pad?  EDIT

I looked up the instructions for the installation and it appears to be adhesive thermal tape.  I don't think this is going to hold up on the R9 290.

The thermal conductance between tape and pad is quite drastic.  That JunPus T180 was the highest I could find @ 1.8 w/mk.  When you compare this to Fujipoly Ultra Extreme at 17 w/mk, there is a large difference.

That sink looks pretty weak compared to the Gelid one..and with minor investment of the Gelid sink, I think it would be worth it.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gelid-CL-R9290-01-A-Enhancement-KIT-Rev-2-ICY-Vision-for-AMD-R9-290-290X-Board-/251569450428?pt=US_Video_Card_GPU_Cooling&hash=item3a92b52dbc

If you don't want to spend the extra $ at first, then you can see how the MK-26 works.  I don't think it is going to be sufficient for how hot the VRM1 gets on these cards, especially when Prolimatech doesn't have the R9 290 cards listed under compatibility.
but damn 18$ for a thermal pad? and ive seen youtube videos on mk-26's on 290's andd the vrms stay around 70 nvm wasnt a 290
Edited by spenceaj - 8/1/14 at 6:03pm
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pulled the trigger 32$ for a thermal pad and a piece of aluminum, thanks robo, tongue.gif
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