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I have this block on the first one: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/21663/ex-blc-1567/EK_Radeon_R9-290X_VGA_Liquid_Cooling_Block_-_Acetal_Nickel_EK-FC_R9-290X_-_AcetalNickel.html?tl=g57c599s2078#options

it says it isnt compatible with some ek bridge.

I have no idea what I need to link the two cards together.

Oh also i'm going from an xspc pump/res combo to a stand alone pump + res. I need suggestions on those also.

I have two 240mm rads so that should be good I'd think.
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I have this block on the first one: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/21663/ex-blc-1567/EK_Radeon_R9-290X_VGA_Liquid_Cooling_Block_-_Acetal_Nickel_EK-FC_R9-290X_-_AcetalNickel.html?tl=g57c599s2078#options

it says it isnt compatible with some ek bridge.

I have no idea what I need to link the two cards together.

Oh also i'm going from an xspc pump/res combo to a stand alone pump + res. I need suggestions on those also.

I have two 240mm rads so that should be good I'd think.

Ideally you want the same waterblock for a second GPU, so you can have the option of running them in parallel.

As to the pump, I'd go with the DDC-PWM (MCP35X) if you want to run the video cards in series, or the D5-Vario (Koolance PMP450, Swiftech MCP655 Vario, etc.) if you want to run the waterblocks in parallel.

As to linking the cards, use crystal link fittings: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/22415/ex-tub-2510/Bitspower_G_14_Enhanced_Multi-Link_Adapter_-_12mm_OD_Rigid_Tube_-_Matte_Black_BP-MBEML.html#blank

A piece of 12mmOD acrylic tubing between them. I'd recommend picking up some synthetic marine grease, your local auto store should carry it, and greasing the tubing before sliding it in.

Makes it slide in REALLy easily.
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Ideally you want the same waterblock for a second GPU, so you can have the option of running them in parallel.

As to the pump, I'd go with the DDC-PWM (MCP35X) if you want to run the video cards in series, or the D5-Vario (Koolance PMP450, Swiftech MCP655 Vario, etc.) if you want to run the waterblocks in parallel.

As to linking the cards, use crystal link fittings: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/22415/ex-tub-2510/Bitspower_G_14_Enhanced_Multi-Link_Adapter_-_12mm_OD_Rigid_Tube_-_Matte_Black_BP-MBEML.html#blank

A piece of 12mmOD acrylic tubing between them. I'd recommend picking up some synthetic marine grease, your local auto store should carry it, and greasing the tubing before sliding it in.

Makes it slide in REALLy easily.

Those fittings are out of stock. What do you mean by series and parallel? I don't really care just want the best temps obviously.

Hows this pump/res combo? http://www.frozencpu.com/products/21022/ex-pmp-251/EK_D5_X-RES_Top_100_w_D5_Vario_Pump_EK-D5_Vario_X-RES_100_incl_pump.html
Edited by HardwareDecoder - 2/21/14 at 6:47pm
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Those fittings are out of stock. What do you mean by series and parallel? I don't really care just want the best temps obviously.

Hows this pump/res combo? http://www.frozencpu.com/products/21022/ex-pmp-251/EK_D5_X-RES_Top_100_w_D5_Vario_Pump_EK-D5_Vario_X-RES_100_incl_pump.html

That pump combo is fine, the res is a little small but that's just personal opinion/taste. D5 Varios are all the same pump, whether it be from EK, Swiftech, Koolance, etc. It's just a rebranded Laing D5.

Series or parallel on the blocks is how you route the tubing. You can split flow between the waterblocks by running them in parallel, DRASTICALLY reducing the pressure drop they cause, but also halving flowrates to each block. Temps usually aren't effected much. The example Koolance has is you have two graphics cards in series the cores temps on GPU-0 will be 74 Celsius and the cores temps on GPU-1 are 76celcius, then you put the GPUs in Parallel and both GPUs will be 78celcius. There isn't much of a temp change between the two designs, but parallel keeps the GPUs at the same temp.
Edit: Their actual example was

""
To illustrate this point, let's say two video blocks are connected in series. The first video block is operating at 45°C, while the second is at 47°C. This is disturbing to some users. They want both video blocks at exactly the same temperature, so the blocks are reconnected in parallel. However, due to the pressure decrease of parallel paths and additional restrictions in the loop, both cards may now operate at 48°C.
""
/Edit
http://koolance.com/help-video-block-connecting

Parallel: Will split the flow between the waterblocks, and reduce the amount of restriction they cause to the loop.


Series: Will maintain higher coolant velocities, increase cooling very slightly, and cause higher restriction when compared to parallel.



Hope that helps.
Edited by ZytheEKS - 2/21/14 at 7:00pm
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Okay, what mcp35x pump/res combo would you get then since I think I will do it in series, any other options to those fittings that are out of stock? I want to get it all at once.

btw im using 7/16 x 5/8 tubing now. w/ G1/4 to 1/2 fittings.
Edited by HardwareDecoder - 2/21/14 at 7:00pm
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Okay, what mcp35x pump/res combo would you get then since I think I will do it in series, any other options to those fittings that are out of stock? I want to get it all at once.

btw im using 7/16 x 5/8 tubing now. w/ G1/4 to 1/2 fittings.

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10743/ex-tub-668/Bitspower_SLI_Crossfire_Multi-Link_Adapter_Pair_-_Matte_Black_BP-MBWP-C47.html#blank

Doesn't matter what tubing you're using, you'll use the crystal links when connecting the video cards.

Figure out how much spacing there is on the graphics cards, one PCI slot, TWO slots, etc. and find the matching crystal link:
This is a two slot spacing one.
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10744/ex-tub-669/Bitspower_SLI_Crossfire_Crystal_Link_Tube_Set_-_2_Slot_Spacing_BP-CLTAC-S2.html

I'd just get an MCP35x and a separate reservoir, the only DDC-res combo I can think of is the Aqualis res and those are pretty expensive for no real world benefit.
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Okay yeah there is a regular pci slot between the 2 so ill need the dual slot. is that crystal link made of glass?
Edited by HardwareDecoder - 2/21/14 at 7:22pm
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Okay yeah there is a regular pci slot between the 2 so ill need the dual slot. stuff

Throw up pics when you're done. biggrin.gif
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Throw up pics when you're done. biggrin.gif


my tubing is ugly, but im gonna work on that. Can you give me an exact link to the pump/res youd by?
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my tubing is ugly, but im gonna work on that. Can you give me an exact link to the pump/res youd by?

Pump: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11740/ex-pmp-109/Swiftech_MCP35X_12v_PWM_Controlled_Water_Pump_-_Black.html

Reservoir: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/20924/ex-res-636/XSPC_Photon_270_Tube_Glass_Cylinder_Reservoir.html#blank

XSPC Photon has easier mounts than most cylindrical reservoirs, and I would advise against bay reservoirs. They have deadzones,so if you rely on a kill coil you can still get algae, and if you have a nanofluid particles can settle. If you're not already using a coolant I'd recommend Mayhems X1, it's got corrosion inhibitors, biocides, performs identically to pure distilled water, and you can leave it in your loop for around 2 years before you need to drain and refill.
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