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FPS games show you the net positive acceleration averaged out, but 2d stuff like LoL and sc2 show you the inconsistency

Makes sense when looking at the graph. I just never move fast enough in those particular games where my muscle memory needs to be that sharp, I guess.
post #32 of 40
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FPS games show you the net positive acceleration averaged out, but 2d stuff like LoL and sc2 show you the inconsistency

Averaged out yes but since every swipe isn't exactly the same you end up at a different spot every time you try to swipe somewhere. I've verified this myself by pointing at an exact spot, flicking quickly in a direction, then slowly moving back to exactly the starting spot. Every time you end up at a different final spot.
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I'm not sure about that. I primarily play DOTA2 and SC2 and the mouse movements, while they require incredible precision, don't usually hit the twitch speeds at which the acceleration takes over. That's better reflected in games like CS and Quake. Of course, I'm no pro.

Actually even at slow speeds there is a very strange deceleration. The 9500 and 9800 just have this "floaty" feel you recognize if you use optical for a while then suddenly switch to them. They just feel "off."
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Averaged out yes but since every swipe isn't exactly the same you end up at a different spot every time you try to swipe somewhere. I've verified this myself by pointing at an exact spot, flicking quickly in a direction, then slowly moving back to exactly the starting spot. Every time you end up at a different final spot.
Actually even at slow speeds there is a very strange deceleration. The 9500 and 9800 just have this "floaty" feel you recognize if you use optical for a while then suddenly switch to them. They just feel "off."

Yeah, I swap back and forth quite a bit, but I have no issues for the most part when going back to my Sensei. Unless I'm playing something that I rely on muscle memory motions, I rarely notice acceleration issues. I've never thought of the 9500 cursor to be floaty. The 9800 on the other hand, yes.
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Makes sense when looking at the graph. I just never move fast enough in those particular games where my muscle memory needs to be that sharp, I guess.



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Floaty in tracking, not latency. The 9800 is floaty in both ways though LOL. I guess I'm just more sensitive, having pushed a good 3-4K hours into FPS games in the last couple years. Like my actions don't overall cause me to pointing where my mind thinks. There's some kind of weird disconnect with 9500s and my brain, it's very hard to describe. Latency is excellent and low on the 9500 but the tracking is so strange.
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Floaty in tracking, not latency. The 9800 is floaty in both ways though LOL. I guess I'm just more sensitive, having pushed a good 3-4K hours into FPS games in the last couple years. Like my actions don't overall cause me to pointing where my mind thinks. There's some kind of weird disconnect with 9500s and my brain, it's very hard to describe. Latency is excellent and low on the 9500 but the tracking is so strange.

That's exactly the way I feel about the PTE sensors. That's why I have such a deep hatred for the sensor. It feels completely disconnected from my brain. The cursor never goes where I expect it to, and doesn't even feel right getting there.
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That's so weird man cause PTE feels pretty 1:1 to me, it's just the Z axis tracking when clicking or lifting that can mess up your aim at higher sensitivities with no CPI scaling. Even Skylit said there is no acceleration on PTE mice last I checked.
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That's so weird man cause PTE feels pretty 1:1 to me, it's just the Z axis tracking when clicking or lifting that can mess up your aim at higher sensitivities with no CPI scaling. Even Skylit said there is no acceleration on PTE mice last I checked.

There is no acceleration in a PTE sensor. I'm not sure how to explain it. The cursor feels like it has a lag to it. Like I'm trying to move the cursor and it's really far away. That's how it registers in my brain.
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Smoothing? LOL
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Smoothing? LOL

You've heard it here first, folks! The PTE sensors are weighed down by tons and tons of SMOOTHING!!!
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