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Passmark is pretty terrible

Why? Kill too many baby seals? CO2? what? seriously the computer enthusiast community has got to grow up and quit with the old character assassination mantras towards anything that fires up our insecurities. Is it still "cool" to hate on big or what? Like all these people always hating on MS yet still pirating their OS. If it's really that bad why still use it? Bunch of freakin hypocrites. When people and companies get good at things, and get noticed, it's like an open invitation, suddenly it's publicly acceptable to start a smear campaign against the entity and nobody questions it. I'm sick of the whole attitude. If Passmark is terrible because that's the popular mantra, then count me out.

I can not point out ANY company that has managed to do what passmark has done, as well as they have done. How can we call that "terrible"? No other company has managed to maintain a comprehensive database of user submitted, standardized benchmarks that have been NORMALIZED to the best of their ability for easy to compare and easy to scale results. Nothing else on the web comes even CLOSE to what they have accomplished, and we have the nerve to call that terrible? If the best is terrible, I can't wait to hear about how bad second best is!

It's like people who try to dog on TomsHardware because that's what all the cool kids do. The root of it is their own insecurity in the face of what is intimidating from a "know-it-all" perspective. Toms is the "big one" so it's publicly acceptable, even encouraged to try to tear them down. BAH! Toms has been around a long long while and done a pretty darn decent job on the overall. There's a lot more good than bad there.

Go get your hardware information from a burlap sack! ALL THE COOL KIDS DO IT!
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Aortic the thread starter is nowhere to be seen now since post 76 - you lot, oh and myself have frightened him off biggrin.gif

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Why? Kill too many baby seals? CO2? what? seriously the computer enthusiast community has got to grow up and quit with the old character assassination mantras towards anything that fires up our insecurities. Is it still "cool" to hate on big or what? Like all these people always hating on MS yet still pirating their OS. If it's really that bad why still use it? Bunch of freakin hypocrites. When people and companies get good at things, and get noticed, it's like an open invitation, suddenly it's publicly acceptable to start a smear campaign against the entity and nobody questions it. I'm sick of the whole attitude. If Passmark is terrible because that's the popular mantra, then count me out.

I can not point out ANY company that has managed to do what passmark has done, as well as they have done. How can we call that "terrible"? No other company has managed to maintain a comprehensive database of user submitted, standardized benchmarks that have been NORMALIZED to the best of their ability for easy to compare and easy to scale results. Nothing else on the web comes even CLOSE to what they have accomplished, and we have the nerve to call that terrible? If the best is terrible, I can't wait to hear about how bad second best is!

It's like people who try to dog on TomsHardware because that's what all the cool kids do. The root of it is their own insecurity in the face of what is intimidating from a "know-it-all" perspective. Toms is the "big one" so it's publicly acceptable, even encouraged to try to tear them down. BAH! Toms has been around a long long while and done a pretty darn decent job on the overall. There's a lot more good than bad there.

Go get your hardware information from a burlap sack! ALL THE COOL KIDS DO IT!

What i meant to say without typing up a huge multi-paragraph rant was that front page passmark score is hardly proportional to actual performance in things like games or real world programs such as x264 (and it is often very far away) thumb.gif
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Here is some info of my rig running at 4.85Ghz

My Ram is not really appropriate for this setup, I think. I originally purchased it with the idea that I might migrate into an Intel build, and bought this ram:

G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2400 (PC3 19200) Desktop Memory Model F3-2400C11D-8GAB

DDR3 2400 (PC3 19200)
Timing 11-13-13-31
Cas Latency 11
Voltage 1.65V

I'm running two kits, same mfg. date for a total of 4 Dimms. They are not on the QVC list for my board, and will likely never achieve 2400Mhz with AMD.

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post #125 of 159
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Originally Posted by mdocod View Post

Why? Kill too many baby seals? CO2? what? seriously the computer enthusiast community has got to grow up and quit with the old character assassination mantras towards anything that fires up our insecurities. Is it still "cool" to hate on big or what? Like all these people always hating on MS yet still pirating their OS. If it's really that bad why still use it? Bunch of freakin hypocrites. When people and companies get good at things, and get noticed, it's like an open invitation, suddenly it's publicly acceptable to start a smear campaign against the entity and nobody questions it. I'm sick of the whole attitude. If Passmark is terrible because that's the popular mantra, then count me out.

I can not point out ANY company that has managed to do what passmark has done, as well as they have done. How can we call that "terrible"? No other company has managed to maintain a comprehensive database of user submitted, standardized benchmarks that have been NORMALIZED to the best of their ability for easy to compare and easy to scale results. Nothing else on the web comes even CLOSE to what they have accomplished, and we have the nerve to call that terrible? If the best is terrible, I can't wait to hear about how bad second best is!

It's like people who try to dog on TomsHardware because that's what all the cool kids do. The root of it is their own insecurity in the face of what is intimidating from a "know-it-all" perspective. Toms is the "big one" so it's publicly acceptable, even encouraged to try to tear them down. BAH! Toms has been around a long long while and done a pretty darn decent job on the overall. There's a lot more good than bad there.

Go get your hardware information from a burlap sack! ALL THE COOL KIDS DO IT!
i love animals but i can see why ' Aortic the thread starter ' has dissapered lachen.gif
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Here is some info of my rig running at 4.85Ghz

My Ram is not really appropriate for this setup, I think. I originally purchased it with the idea that I might migrate into an Intel build, and bought this ram:

G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2400 (PC3 19200) Desktop Memory Model F3-2400C11D-8GAB

DDR3 2400 (PC3 19200)
Timing 11-13-13-31
Cas Latency 11
Voltage 1.65V

I'm running two kits, same mfg. date for a total of 4 Dimms. They are not on the QVC list for my board, and will likely never achieve 2400Mhz with AMD.

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OK so you are using around a 2400mhz NB speed. Which is a lot less stressful on the IMC. So I can see how you are running so nicely at the much lower voltage.

What mobo are you using? And also what are your other voltages like? NB and VDDC (PLL) mainly?
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Sorry I was out of line with all that. I mean no offense. Just got tired and cranky yesterday.
     
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To Alastair:

Using ASUS M5A99FX PRO R2.0

See the build below for all hardware.

Now running stable at 4.730 Ghz. 4.85 too thermally stressful for this setup.

NB Volts: 1.225 (1.200 norm)
VDDA Volts: 2.600 (2.500 norm)

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It is clear however that Stay Puft and the other Intel fanboy's are not going to be growing up over their 13 year old fanboy-ism anytime soon.

Why would i give up buying Intel? They've treated me good since my Q6600
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Why would i give up buying Intel? They've treated me good since my Q6600

give up fanboyism, not buying intel. I can't vouch for this guy's claims, thats just what he was saying.
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