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post #1321 of 1929
hi, I have new mionix naos mice and I like its good ergonomics shape. It's designed very well but build quality does not fit to its price. Plastics parts of the mouse are very thin and wobble. Left mouse clicks are very unstable. Omron switch works perfectly, but clicking is not with"clean response" as it could be. Very often I feel contact with some other plastic parts under this button if I stick my finger on the button and then slightly press from the right side to the left side of the button. Similar but minor issue if I want to press this button with palm grip (all finger over button), because its deflection (hope it's right word for it). Right button is OK, because it's softer or there is smaller travel time. Also you don't click with right mouse so often... Is this issues same with AVIOR one or not? I don't know if there is exist some flawfless mouse with no acceleration/prediction.
post #1322 of 1929
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Never had anything like that with the Avior. There are plenty of mice with no acceleration or prediction now. Take your pick amongst the 3310 mice available.
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post #1323 of 1929
Swamp cursor seems to be fixed in 3.38 firmware.

I tested Avior 7000 vs the following mice: G400 (3600 DPI version), Kana v2, G502, G402

I used League of Legends to test 2d play since it has a very lightweight engine, and Crysis 3 for 3d play for the sole reason that it's what I'm playing through right now. Kana v2 and Avior 7000 come out on top in League of Legends with a big asterik for G400 explained below, and another asterik for G502. It will be down mostly to preference where the Avior has better precision, but heavier and a little more cumbersome, while Kana v2 has pretty much the exact physical dimensions and weight for what you would want in MOBA/RTS play.

In 3d engines where you pan the camera around in first person view, the Avior comes out ahead of the Kana v2 due to higher sensor frame rate and resolution giving you higher accuracy. The higher frame rate also seems to help in 1st person camera pans to make movement smoother as well as internet scrolling. The G402 I consider inferior to the original G400 in just about every way except maybe the shell, so I don't really need to go into that.

If I had to make a complaint on the 3.38 firmware, it would be that it feels like the mouse's anti-jitter protection might be clipping/clamping values a little too hard (whatever terminology you want to use), but there is not a heavy smoothing element to it. The mouse does feel a good bit different to earlier optical mice. Earlier opticals have a bit of a rubberband effect feel to them, while the Avior feels like a laser beam glued to the screen. I personally prefer the slight rubberband effect feel myself because it helps for flick shots. That feel might return somewhat if the clamping on the anti-jitter protection was loosened some, but I would have to test the differences between each firmware to see if it helped or hurt this particular sensor.

Having said all that, the cursor does not feel remotely similar to an MLT04 or anything. It feels more similar to a G502 with less buggy software or a G9x without acceleration.

*My original G400, which had some of the best performance of any newer generation mice I've used at 400 or 800 DPI & 1000hz broke and I'm now using a G400 imported from Korea. The new mouse does not perform similar to the old one. People like Skylit seem to post several times a day how manufacturing differences create mice that perform differently and this is definitely a case of that. In the past, I owned two Deathadder 3G at the same time where one tracked perfectly and the other tracked mediocre, so this is an example of that.

**The G502 has some kind of buggy software or firmware where each time you install the software to load settings, the mouse will feel completely different each time with no consistency whatsoever even when inputting the same settings. If I load the exact same settings in all three profiles in on-board memory, the mouse also feels completely different in each one. Profile three will also bug out and switch back to 500hz even when I set 1000hz. I'm not a fan of LGS and wish they would use different software for each mouse because it doesn't seem to be working. Razer Synapse is also a disaster.
Edited by r0ach - 11/4/14 at 4:09pm
post #1324 of 1929
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Swamp cursor seems to be fixed in 3.38 firmware.
Holy ****.
post #1325 of 1929
Just a heads up on the test firmware. The LOD is much higher than the default one I used and it doesn't seem adjustable through the software so if having high LOD is an issue for you, it might be better just to wait until Mionix does a proper release.
post #1326 of 1929
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Just a heads up on the test firmware. The LOD is much higher than the default one I used and it doesn't seem adjustable through the software so if having high LOD is an issue for you, it might be better just to wait until Mionix does a proper release.

I've never understood people who freak out about LOD personally, it's the least important aspect of a sensor that can be screwed up. There are always far worse issues with sensors than LOD to worry about. It's much easier to adapt to high LOD than it is to adapt to acceleration or swamp cursor.
post #1327 of 1929
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I've never understood people who freak out about LOD personally, it's the least important aspect of a sensor that can be screwed up. There are always far worse issues with sensors than LOD to worry about. It's much easier to adapt to high LOD than it is to adapt to acceleration or swamp cursor.

LOD is not much of a sensor issue as much as it being an ergonomic issue.
People like to have reduced weight and lower LOD so that the continues mouse lifting process it is more effortless.
It's not a sensor issue as much as being an easy experience issue.
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post #1328 of 1929
Yeah I'm pretty spoiled by low LOD at this point. If a mouse isn't made by Zowie or doesn't have adjustable LOD it's virtually a deal-breaker. If my mouse isn't in physical contact with the surface that means I don't want it to track.
post #1329 of 1929
I just use one profile for everything. =)
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TEST ONLY Firmware 3.38 added to OP. Test away. Mionix wants your feedback. Calling all smoothing people: this firmware is supposed to eliminate smoothing but not all driver features will work properly as it is a test firmware only. Place all feedback in this thread and I will forward it on to Mionix once we have a general consensus as far as how this firmware feels compared to earlier versions. I have not tried it yet as of this post as I'll be at work for another 7 hours or so.
 Exactly what features won't work properly with the firmware? I'm glad to hear Mionix making updates with community feedback though.
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post #1330 of 1929
Ermagerd...

If even r0ach finds the 3.38 firmware acceptable... I must try this.

WHERE'S MY AVIOR!!!

(starts looking in his airtight sealed box filled with mice*)
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