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After 1 day with Avior, I managed to get new record on training aim map!
85/100 or 85% biggrin.gif

What settings did you use, in other words what do I have to shoot on the wall? biggrin.gif
I'd like to try this out too.
     
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Whats the ideal LOD on this mice?
Can I make the tracking worse by for example running at lowest, even tho I dont really notice and difference in tracking?

1 thing ive noticed is that its very slippery unless ur hands are a little moist.
So I defently need to play some warmup before getting all serious lol.

They should make a lighter version of the avior, with maybe a little different shape.
I feel like the rear is too wide and bulky,
If it was slimmer, it would be comfier in the hands duo to it not having pressure on the area with the little & ring finger on the palm.

Minimum LOD works fine, full PCS still available. That's how I run it on my Talent.
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Could anyone explain me what's the deal with mouse latency? In this or the other thread I found that this mouse has 6500 FPS which is lower than IE 3.0. What are the consequences? I couldn't find any explanation for mice's FPS.
Right now I am using 2 setups:
  1. 60Hz - 1600dpi / 1000Hz G400 on worn out Goliathus Control with up to only 1.86m/s tracking speed (which I find a little too low)
  2. 144Hz - 1600dpi / 1000Hz Tesoro Shrike on A4tech x7 500mp with up to 3.5m/s - this setup is fine

What is FPS of these mice? How will MIONIX AVIOR work in comparison to aforementioned? I'm curious about 60Hz monitor setup, cause with 144Hz I know it will be great.

I'd like to use AVIOR with both of my computers (desktop and laptop). Also I wonder which mousepad will be best for MIONIX AVIOR 7000? I am playing DOTA 2 on FHD resolution and i make small mouse movements with high speed and stop it in the right position. High speed movements tell me to go for a plastic mouse pads, but stopping in the right position is something that will feel better on cloth mousepad, which shall I go for?

I think if you want accurate stopping you can't do much better than a QcK+ or a QcK Heavy. Lots of room and enough friction to accurately stop where you want to. The reason the max PCS for your G400 is so low is because you aren't using a native CPI step. Use 800 CPI, that is the only truly native CPI step on that mouse.

I use my Avior with a Talent. Don't use it with hard mats, it only likes very specific ones. Every CPI step on the Avior is native until you go over 5000 CPI. Works great for me on a Talent, but I'm an FPS player and that pad may not have enough friction for you. I don't think FPS of the sensor matters much in real world use, since the Avior feels every bit as responsive as most 3090 mice. Works fine on both 60 and 144 Hz (I use a VG248QE).
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After 1 day with Avior, I managed to get new record on training aim map!
85/100 or 85% biggrin.gif


Told you guys it was the best FPS mouse I ever owned, I wasn't kidding smile.gif
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So I've been doing some major Googling and knockin' on doors in order to find a replacement for my beloved Logitech MX 610 lazer mouse that I've used for over five years now that recently broke, and I happened upon the war of optical vs lazer and claw vs palm, and realised it wasn't going to be a simple process finding a replacement. As a result of that, I've theorized that I'd like to try an optical and ditch the lazer technology. I never bargained upon the technology or the DPI rating when I bought the Logitech, I just bought it because it felt right. Maybe I'll notice the difference in optical mice and become a pro like I always dreamed I'd be (sure, Daniel, sure *pat pat*), or maybe I won't and I'd miss the lazer and its slight acceleration, speed, and comparability with bare wood, but either way I wanted to give it a shot.

Throughout my searches I was struggling to find the right mouse that met my criteria, which is basically an ergonomic shell with big dimensions that is similar in size to my old Logitech and had no less than 7 buttons, but would ideally have 8, 9 or 10. I have become so used to being able to mute my audio and raise and the lower the volume of Windows with my mouse that I don't think I could do without it. There were a couple of MMO mice that caught my eye which I could program to do that, but I don't think I'd find them comfortable because my thumb would be resting on the buttons all the time, and that would freak me out. The rest of the mice that caught my eye were all lazer mice or wireless. I don't mind going wireless again, but I'd rather go wired. I'm sick of double AA's.

Step in the Avior 7000. I first saw the Naos 7000 and liked the styling, but then I noticed that the Avior had two extra buttons and had even similar dimensions to my Logitech. I also noticed the forum here had a rather large discussion on it, and I've used OC.net for research before, so I thought I'd join and ask whether anyone knew where I could get the Avior 7000 for less than the €80 that Mionix has it for? Someone said they found it for €65. Amazon has it for £80 with free shipping, which is a lot. I don't know why Amazon have it priced so high. Usually they have the best prices. Scan has it for £67 with shipping, which is the same as €80 from Mionix with free shipping; I'd rather support the creators directly than a faceless online shop like Scan.

Also, can anyone say whether the two buttons on the right side (I'm right-handed) are as useful for additional controls as I'm hoping they are? If they are not accessible or are too easy to press and perform a function, upon disabling them, do they irritate the ring and little finger while they're resting on the right side of the mouse?
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So I've been doing some major Googling and knockin' on doors in order to find a replacement for my beloved Logitech MX 610 lazer mouse that I've used for over five years now that recently broke, and I happened upon the war of optical vs lazer and claw vs palm, and realised it wasn't going to be a simple process finding a replacement. As a result of that, I've theorized that I'd like to try an optical and ditch the lazer technology. I never bargained upon the technology or the DPI rating when I bought the Logitech, I just bought it because it felt right. Maybe I'll notice the difference in optical mice and become a pro like I always dreamed I'd be (sure, Daniel, sure *pat pat*), or maybe I won't and I'd miss the lazer and its slight acceleration, speed, and comparability with bare wood, but either way I wanted to give it a shot.

Throughout my searches I was struggling to find the right mouse that met my criteria, which is basically an ergonomic shell with big dimensions that is similar in size to my old Logitech and had no less than 7 buttons, but would ideally have 8, 9 or 10. I have become so used to being able to mute my audio and raise and the lower the volume of Windows with my mouse that I don't think I could do without it. There were a couple of MMO mice that caught my eye which I could program to do that, but I don't think I'd find them comfortable because my thumb would be resting on the buttons all the time, and that would freak me out. The rest of the mice that caught my eye were all lazer mice or wireless. I don't mind going wireless again, but I'd rather go wired. I'm sick of double AA's.

Step in the Avior 7000. I first saw the Naos 7000 and liked the styling, but then I noticed that the Avior had two extra buttons and had even similar dimensions to my Logitech. I also noticed the forum here had a rather large discussion on it, and I've used OC.net for research before, so I thought I'd join and ask whether anyone knew where I could get the Avior 7000 for less than the €80 that Mionix has it for? Someone said they found it for €65. Amazon has it for £80 with free shipping, which is a lot. I don't know why Amazon have it priced so high. Usually they have the best prices. Scan has it for £67 with shipping, which is the same as €80 from Mionix with free shipping; I'd rather support the creators directly than a faceless online shop like Scan.

Also, can anyone say whether the two buttons on the right side (I'm right-handed) are as useful for additional controls as I'm hoping they are? If they are not accessible or are too easy to press and perform a function, upon disabling them, do they irritate the ring and little finger while they're resting on the right side of the mouse?

If you're looking for extra buttons, and were happy with Logitech and their shape, then I'll recommend the G502 or the G602. They're both larger, ergonomic, and have great sensors. They also have a ton of extra buttons. Also, the G602 is a wired/wireless hybrid.

The Avior 7000 is a fantastic mouse, no doubt. I'm using one myself, but I'm not sure it's going to fit your requirements. It's not ergonomic and it doesn't have a ton of extra assignable buttons. The two on the right side are even turned off for me, because I keep accidentally hitting them with my pinky and ring fingers. I'm a hybrid grip user, so that may just be an issue for me.
Edited by DivineDark - 4/11/14 at 10:53am
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The G602 had interested me, but I wanted to stay away from wireless if possible, and also consider other companies besides Logitech. I'll give it another look since it can be wired also. The G502 looks pretty dope. It's not released yet, though, is it? I really need something now. NAO!! rolleyes.gif

I'm an 'every-grip' user, as in I use whatever feels naturally comfort (sorry, that sounds kinda pretentious). That's what drew me to the Avior: it seemed to accept many playing styles. The Naos 7000 might be one to reconsider if you keep accidentally hitting the right-hand buttons. I just loved the shape of it and the idea of having two buttons on either side. I'm still considering it.
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One small correction DivineDark. G602 is wireless. Cant use it wired. Still a good choice
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So I've been doing some major Googling and knockin' on doors in order to find a replacement for my beloved Logitech MX 610 lazer mouse that I've used for over five years now that recently broke, and I happened upon the war of optical vs lazer and claw vs palm, and realised it wasn't going to be a simple process finding a replacement. As a result of that, I've theorized that I'd like to try an optical and ditch the lazer technology. I never bargained upon the technology or the DPI rating when I bought the Logitech, I just bought it because it felt right. Maybe I'll notice the difference in optical mice and become a pro like I always dreamed I'd be (sure, Daniel, sure *pat pat*), or maybe I won't and I'd miss the lazer and its slight acceleration, speed, and comparability with bare wood, but either way I wanted to give it a shot.

Throughout my searches I was struggling to find the right mouse that met my criteria, which is basically an ergonomic shell with big dimensions that is similar in size to my old Logitech and had no less than 7 buttons, but would ideally have 8, 9 or 10. I have become so used to being able to mute my audio and raise and the lower the volume of Windows with my mouse that I don't think I could do without it. There were a couple of MMO mice that caught my eye which I could program to do that, but I don't think I'd find them comfortable because my thumb would be resting on the buttons all the time, and that would freak me out. The rest of the mice that caught my eye were all lazer mice or wireless. I don't mind going wireless again, but I'd rather go wired. I'm sick of double AA's.

Step in the Avior 7000. I first saw the Naos 7000 and liked the styling, but then I noticed that the Avior had two extra buttons and had even similar dimensions to my Logitech. I also noticed the forum here had a rather large discussion on it, and I've used OC.net for research before, so I thought I'd join and ask whether anyone knew where I could get the Avior 7000 for less than the €80 that Mionix has it for? Someone said they found it for €65. Amazon has it for £80 with free shipping, which is a lot. I don't know why Amazon have it priced so high. Usually they have the best prices. Scan has it for £67 with shipping, which is the same as €80 from Mionix with free shipping; I'd rather support the creators directly than a faceless online shop like Scan.

Also, can anyone say whether the two buttons on the right side (I'm right-handed) are as useful for additional controls as I'm hoping they are? If they are not accessible or are too easy to press and perform a function, upon disabling them, do they irritate the ring and little finger while they're resting on the right side of the mouse?


I would say go with the AVIOR.
Or wait for the ROCCAT KONE PURE OPTICAL MILITARY.

Do not use a laser mouse again. your mind will be better getting used to a no acceleration mouse.
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One small correction DivineDark. G602 is wireless. Cant use it wired. Still a good choice

Oh wow! Okay. I thought you could run it both ways. My fault.
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