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No they aren't. Remember that most people don't notice the acceleration in adns9500 or adns9800.
he does have a point on this that the reason so much avago 9800 laser mice are being sold sadly
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post #72 of 1929
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No they aren't. Remember that most people don't notice the acceleration in adns9500 or adns9800.

The difference is, I'm LOOKING for it and I can't find it. And I actually have tried two 3310 mice and swapped back and forth between them and a 3090. No perceivable difference. When I went and LOOKED and tested for acceleration in my old sensei I definitely found it. I will never understand why people say it is a problem. I'm sorry man, I am the one who actually has owned all the products we're talking about here and that's my take from personal experience. It is a non-issue for me and I'm ultra sensitive to such things. All I can tell you is to buy from a place with easy returns or wait for some people to take a crap on my thread here with SMOOTHING MAKES THIS MOUSE TRASH. I BOUGHT IT AND YOU SUCK METAL571.
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post #73 of 1929
How many people have actually come out and said that they personally feel lag with their 3310 based mice? More than zero?
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thats said mostly for da 2013 but thats not using a pixart 3310
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post #75 of 1929
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thats said mostly for da 2013 but thats not using a pixart 3310

Yeah most complaints I've heard are from the 4000 DPI SROM for the 3090 aka G400s, and the DA 2013's S3988 sensor. However, I also remember there being more complaints in earlier firmwares and that maybe the latency was lessened in later versions of the DA 2013's firmware. I can't remember for sure though. People don't really feel anything with the Rival or this Avior. I sure as **** don't.
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post #76 of 1929
Well are we talking about the lag aka smoothing? If so don't forget Roccat savu and I think kana v2? (I'm not sure if kana has it..)
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post #77 of 1929
Still havn't received mine frown.gif

I hope i'll get it tomorrow biggrin.gif

And will see if I can play better with it than with my Rival smile.gif
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post #78 of 1929
I knew that the smoothing topic would be mentioned here again some time.
And I kinda knew it was from somebody who doesn't own the mouse we're actually talking about.
That's why I'll paste my previous post from another topic in here again:

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I don't want to underrate anyones experience with mice, but in the last 1 or 2 months things got really crazy here on OC.net, and I mean really crazy. People start to feel input lags and get literally sick from too much smoothing, and basically any new mouse with 3090 or 3310 is crap because it's inferior to the old optical sensors that were built into mice that nobody can even purchase anymore.

r0ach started it I think (and I'm still thankful for his findings and his support regarding minimizing input lag) and from then on a wave of users began to feel that something is odd with new bought mice. I wonder how much talk about all this would be on here if this topic wasn't brought to light in that way it did. And tbh I still cannot see any difference in input lag between my WMO, IE3 and FK on 450 DPI. I tested it for nearly an hour straight on offline servers in CS:GO, QLive and Warsow. In direct comparison. And usually I'm the guy who sees the small things first and has kinda a sense for things like that (at least I often get those comments from family and friends). Of course the WMO is more agile and for my hands and grip performs a tad quicker, but that is because the feet are smaller than the FK and it glides more effortlessly and is lighter overall too.

As long as there is no scientific evidence and the tester has the same mouse shell with same mouse feet and underlying mousepad with different sensors inside in direct comparison, it really should be stated as a mind trick or placebo effect or plain discomfort regarding performance or tracking.

For the sake of staying sane and reasonable I now begin to sell my huge backup of WMOs and bought an Avior 7000 with an optical sensor from 2013/14 with omg-smoothing-I-have-to-puke which will arrive this week. For all I know the shape looks damn promising, quality too, and with a sensor with 5+ m/s and adjustable lift-off distance it's kinda the dream come true for me regarding optical mice. And if somehow some time I notice that it DOES have perceivable input lag, then please don't hesitate to bash me, but for all I know I will settle on this thing.
post #79 of 1929
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Originally Posted by nlmiller0015 View Post

thats said mostly for da 2013 but thats not using a pixart 3310

Yeah most complaints I've heard are from the 4000 DPI SROM for the 3090 aka G400s, and the DA 2013's S3988 sensor. However, I also remember there being more complaints in earlier firmwares and that maybe the latency was lessened in later versions of the DA 2013's firmware. I can't remember for sure though. People don't really feel anything with the Rival or this Avior. I sure as **** don't.

I notice 0 smoothing really when using rival vs Savu.
Both respond well, no problems at all for me.

All this Smoothing stuff on overclock.net is so stupid.
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r0ach is some kind of alien species.
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