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post #851 of 1929
I'm pretty sure most people know that you can be really good with less than ideal equipment but it kind of makes you wonder if they could be even better with the ideal setup. It doesn't really matter it just goes to show that you can do well with less than ideal gear. Most people don't even feel all this smoothing, me included, and I've got several IME 3.0 and a G400S to compare which should be like night and day. In some way the 3.0 feels more responsive and raw but if I had never heard of smoothing I'm sure I would tell you they were equal in terms of performance, so I guess what I am feeling is some kind of placebo. Having said that I can see how it must be frustrating if you're picky about this and your cursor movement feels "artificial" and not completely 1:1. Most of them probably can't feel smoothing and playing on 120/144hz which I assume most of them do apparently makes it less obvious. They put hours into the game instead of complaining on forums ( biggrin.gif ) which is much more beneficial if you actually want to be good at the end of the day. But bear in mind that these people complaining about smoothing probably pushes the development of sensors in the right direction. To me it seems like Logitech has seen the complaints here and developed a beast of a sensor which is pretty "perfect" for now at least.
post #852 of 1929
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Originally Posted by Crizzl View Post

I'm pretty sure most people know that you can be really good with less than ideal equipment but it kind of makes you wonder if they could be even better with the ideal setup. It doesn't really matter it just goes to show that you can do well with less than ideal gear. Most people don't even feel all this smoothing, me included, and I've got several IME 3.0 and a G400S to compare which should be like night and day. In some way the 3.0 feels more responsive and raw but if I had never heard of smoothing I'm sure I would tell you they were equal in terms of performance, so I guess what I am feeling is some kind of placebo. Having said that I can see how it must be frustrating if you're picky about this and your cursor movement feels "artificial" and not completely 1:1. Most of them probably can't feel smoothing and playing on 120/144hz which I assume most of them do apparently makes it less obvious. They put hours into the game instead of complaining on forums ( biggrin.gif ) which is much more beneficial if you actually want to be good at the end of the day. But bear in mind that these people complaining about smoothing probably pushes the development of sensors in the right direction. To me it seems like Logitech has seen the complaints here and developed a beast of a sensor which is pretty "perfect" for now at least.

Yup. Till we create a new imaginary affliction to condemn the sensor to the point of calling it unusable. Just like the 3090 and 3310 before it. biggrin.gif
post #853 of 1929
just got my Talent-pad today and so far I like it more than the QcK
Edited by c0dy - 5/16/14 at 8:03am
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post #854 of 1929
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Yup. Till we create a new imaginary affliction to condemn the sensor to the point of calling it unusable. Just like the 3090 and 3310 before it. biggrin.gif

Hence the "for now at least" smile.gif
post #855 of 1929
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nope, GeT_RiGhT switched back to Xai long long time ago.
aswell as Xizt switched back to his Ikari.
aswell as Fifflaren is currently running a Kana v2.

i bet there was some marketing contract while the release time of Rival to promote the new product.

I am sick and tired of this discussions....

play with the mouse you are comfortable with and put hours into the game, learn the mechanics and you will do great.

just to tease those placebo-rangers some examples:

f0rest + kinzu v1 in CS 1.6 = dominating the world with the sickest headshots of the whole scene.
same counts for GeT_RiGhT + kinzu v1 in CS 1.6 = years of dominance with superb aiming.

oh, wait? kinzu v1??? UNUSABLE inbuild hardware accel ?!?!?!! worst mouse ever !!! ( wink.gif i hope you get it)

current example, ScreaM from Titans in CS:GO.. no doubt one of the best, if not THE best aimer...
guess what? Deathadder2013, wait? the unusable, hardcore smoothed out sensor, delayed, n0 fliCksh0tZ possible !
and please don't tell me again, they get some turbo private CIA NASA firmware updates, specially for progaming.........rolleyes.gif

Very true. The Kinzu V1's acceleration is not inconsistent though, they just had to get used to it.
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post #856 of 1929
people, don't get me wrong.
it's very normal to strive for the very best you can get.
but i really get mad, when i read some peoples posts about several mice or sensors
and count all their flaws and what so bad about them, but if they are honest to themselves,
they know that most times the handicap isn't the mouse.
post #857 of 1929
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people, don't get me wrong.
it's very normal to strive for the very best you can get.
but i really get mad, when i read some peoples posts about several mice or sensors
and count all their flaws and what so bad about them, but if they are honest to themselves,
they know that most times the handicap isn't the mouse.

That's why we can't go around bashing this person or that person's style, really. You can't suggest that something is impossible for ANYONE to use, but you can make people aware of the flaws. How much that will impact them depends on them.
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post #858 of 1929
For short:

- Most people are not competitive gamers nor leaving from gaming alone (I said most)
- Sensor does not mean much when you are the bottleneck
- Shape is a great part of what makes a mouse great or not
- mousepad needs to be considered as well when looking for a new mouse (picky sensors, etc.)
- claw or palm, use whatever you're confortable with

And I forgot. Your mouse needs a bit of swag too.
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post #859 of 1929
Alright. Found one flaw which is starting to irritate me somewhat. My mouse wheel is flexing during the initial button press. It doesn't last throughout the whole press, only in the very beginning, but it's quite noticeable. You can even hear it.
post #860 of 1929
Meh mouse only has 1 flaw for me and it's justified imo, nothing about functionality:

The back is to damn heavy.

That being said, any brands selling mouseskates for the Avior yet? Once they do I might open it up and see if I can "take a load of my avior's back" biggrin.gif
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