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Say hi to dx12

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/directx/p/directx12.aspx
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post #182 of 196
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Originally Posted by CaliLife17 View Post

Lets also not forget that Mantle has a "Catch" as well.

1. only certain games support it currently, and no game has shipped with support for mantle from day 1.

2. It only supports Radeon R9 290X, R9 290, R7 260X and the new “Kaveri” APU.

So if you want to get into that mindset, Mantle is no different.

At the end of the day this is good news for everyone. Mantle, DX, and OpenGL competing against each other to be more efficient is good.

unless they implement this into older directx and opengl versions they will have the same catch as mantle as new games will need to be made that support it or patchs smile.gif
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post #183 of 196
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Say hi to dx12

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/directx/p/directx12.aspx

hopefully this ushers in a new era for computer gaming. Full of software optimizations to use our powerful hardware
    
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post #184 of 196
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Say hi to dx12

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/directx/p/directx12.aspx
AMD has done it Mantle has succeeded to cause the shift.
The thing is AMD want's this focus mainly for their budget gaming solutions and creating the cheapest platform to play with the best performance/dollar and good performance/watt
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Originally Posted by maarten12100 View Post

AMD has done it Mantle has succeeded to cause the shift.
The thing is AMD want's this focus mainly for their budget gaming solutions and creating the cheapest platform to play with the best performance/dollar and good performance/watt

Microsoft has said so many times that the next dx will be way different and everytime they fail to deliver( see DC as the last fail). Even then they will talk about the future. Dont expect this api to come soon and we dont know the future.Dx11 is old but only recently they start to use it as a standard
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post #186 of 196
We don't know how long DX12 has been in development. Only time will tell what's really going on with it.
 
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Dual core might be pushing it...I've seen benches of BF4 and even old Q6600's and phenom x4's were just a hair under the top end CPUs...but the dual core CPUs were pretty much dead in the water.
Dude, i3 is just about as fast as Core 2 quads/phenom x4. Core 2 quads/phenom x4 are slow for a quad core, any 1155/1150 i3 will be able to equal it with just dual core + HT.
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post #188 of 196
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Dude, i3 is just about as fast as Core 2 quads/phenom x4. Core 2 quads/phenom x4 are slow for a quad core, any 1155/1150 i3 will be able to equal it with just dual core + HT.

In my research i3s actually exceeded C2Qs, Pentium G2020 was 1% better than C2Q in multi-threaded.
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I suspect no issues with higher end core 2 duos like the e8400. Actually I think the e8400 would have no issues running newer titles...

I know for fact a the Q9550 can as not only do i have one another guy paired his with a GTX780 and it had little no bottle necking. His was paired with DDR2 and and a mild overclock versus max overclock and ddr3.
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In my research i3s actually exceeded C2Qs, Pentium G2020 was 1% better than C2Q in multi-threaded.

is it a quad core? also did you run only synthetic benchmarks?

the 775 clubs have benchmarks that show the Q9550 and higher models when overclocked and paired with ddr3 on part with i5s, first gen i5s.
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Dual core might be pushing it...I've seen benches of BF4 and even old Q6600's and phenom x4's were just a hair under the top end CPUs...but the dual core CPUs were pretty much dead in the water.
Dude, i3 is just about as fast as Core 2 quads/phenom x4. Core 2 quads/phenom x4 are slow for a quad core, any 1155/1150 i3 will be able to equal it with just dual core + HT.

Which is what is shown in the benches I linked. As long as there are four threads BF4 single player doesn't really care what the CPU is. Though that is just BF4...plenty of other games that will run just fine on an I3 even with no HT enabled.
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