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That doesnt really matter for storage. 5-10 mins to load a list isnt normal, i can almost guarantee merely reinstalling your OS will show you tons of performance increase by itself.

Whens the last time youve reinstalled? I'm guessing years? smile.gif At least once per 12 months is recommended.
    
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Yes i do re install windows yearly. Even after a fresh install it seems to do this. Granted i do have alot of movies, around 10k mp3s, prolly 200 tv shows, at least 5k pictures. I have alot of files on that one hard drive. I think the last time i reformatted was probably 4-5 months ago. Its been like that since day 1
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There are lots of very legitimate reasons for it to take that long. If you do a web search for long loading times with large file trees for samba and other file sharing and streaming standards you'll undoubtedly run into thousands of discussions on the issue. There are configuration changes that can solve some of the causes of such delays but it's also possible that the issue is partially client side and as such, may not be solvable if it's a proprietary implementation. I do however expect that a modern platform with a new CPU stands a good chance of brute forcing some of those issues down to more reasonable delays. It's also possible that the configurations issues that are causing the delays would disappear on a new system build with newer drivers, instruction capabilities and chip-sets.

Over the years I have fought with many weird performance glitches. Some battles I won with configurations changes, or software version changes, or BIOS settings, etc. Others never went away on that hardware no matter what I did. However, in almost every case that I have had one of these "performance glitches" that I was never able to solve with a software configuration solution, hardware upgrades have, for whatever mysterious reasoning, solved the problem. While the problem MAY have been solvable, there's a point where it's not worth messing with any more. Just because something *should* work doesn't always mean it's worth the time to force it to. Also, do keep in mind that even though computer hardware should *on paper* have enough performance to do a particular thing well, the natural ebb-n-flow of software side standards will eventually force older hardware into obsolescence. The further you are into "legacy" status, the less time is spent optimizing software for it, so it is perfectly normal to see performance in a constant state of regression on a machine as you keep updating software to maintain compatibility with the standards around the machine.
     
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Excellent explanation. But like i said as my collection gets larger... my hardware should increase also with it. True it may not be the hardware that actually has a problem but say i only have 20 files i'm trying to view as opposed to 2000 and do 5 other things at once you would think that the demand for better hardware would increase also. Gotta keep up with the jones!
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Just bought me an 840 Evo... Now next order of business?
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Do you want something you can overclock and performance tune?
     
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I tinker with overclocking and such but nothing for gaming or anything like that. Just for the speed
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For non-gaming, I'm figuring you'll be better served by a modern iGPU than to carry over the 9600GSO. You won't get much improvement in terms of 3D performance, but you'll pickup a lot of efficiency and support for modern standards that may impact user interface acceleration, and much better hardware decoding capabilities.

Worthwhile Intel "tinkering" doesn't start till the i5-4670K (~$200-210), +Z87 (~$100-140), +HSF (~$30-50+) = ~$330-400+

Worthwhile AMD "tinkering" starts at Richland A8 series (~$95-100), +A85/88 ($65-110), +HSF (~$30-50+) = $190-260+

You could technically do an AM3+ socket build, but I wouldn't bother unless you could get a modern discrete GPU to go along with it. Doesn't have to be strong but something up to date may be helpful. An R7 series or GT640 IMO. That could wind up being as expensive as the Intel to implement, which may not be worth it.
     
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Alright guys so far here's what i've done. I've managed to upgrade the e5400 to a q9300... got a GTS450 to replace my 8400gs and ordered a SSD Evo 840. What would be the next upgrade?
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I've been looking for potential hardware to upgrade my old computer with.

Upon seeing benchmarks for the new Haswell Celerons, they really interested me. They are cheap, pretty good, low wattage and new.
From the intended use you gave us in the OP, I believe the Celeron would beat anything AMD would offer in the price range, unless you forgot to include lots of multi-tasking and/or using it to render/encode things.

Video playback - Celeron covers that fine.
Browsing - More than capable. Browser/Flash games? Most are Single-Threaded so.. Celeron > A6-6400K
Music/Streaming - CPU doesn't matter much for that at all.
Encoding/Rendering - AMD-Something can probably own the Celeron, but at the cost of single-thread performance. Have yet to actually find one in the price range though.

The CPUs I have in mind are the following.
Intel Celeron G1820 - $40 @ Microcenter - http://www.microcenter.com/product/428533/Celeron_G1820_27GHz_LGA_1150_Boxed_processor
Intel Celeron G1830 - $60 @ Newegg - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116973
AMD A6-6400K - $64 @ Newegg - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113335

I couldn't find anything too good for AMD in the relative price range, but the 6400K is able to be overclocked, unlike the Celerons, so that's a bonus. The 6400K is beaten by either Celeron in both Multi-core / ST benchmarks at stock though, not sure how far the OC would take it. One thing the 6400K does have is that it's an APU, not sure how it compares to the Intel HD Graphics on the Celeron, but I'm sure with either you could probably get away without using a GPU. If anyone knows of any low-budget AMD chips that are great deals or beat the Celerons, for less than $80, please let me know in a PM or reply.



An SSD would be one of the best possible things to buy, none of the tasks you told us are very demanding, so I'd say unless you're maxing your current CPU Usage on tasks right now, than an SSD might even be all you need.
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