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ahh I see. that's unfortunate the PCIe slots are configured as such. if the primary PCIe slot was 1 slot higher on your mobo you would have avoided this problem biggrin.gif oh well... something to think about if you ever decide to upgrade your board/chip smile.gif

That was one of the main reasons I unloaded the third Tittan. When I do move the middle card to the bottom the top card stays cool at around 60C. Which I feel is really good.

I had an idea though of finding a way to cut the metal on the bottom away. Is there any way to do it without a dremel?

Edited by dpoverlord - 3/7/14 at 6:31pm
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technically yes....

but much more difficult and ALOT Of work involved. you would need to build a shroud to channel the hot air to exhaust through those 3x40mm fan ports next to your GPU. it's hard because your side panel intake fan is also in the way so pretty hard to build a shroud to reroute the air to those exhaust ports.

you can try to make a mockup by using thick cardboard paper and electrical tape to get the right measurements/shape and even test it to see if it works. once you are satisfied that it would work. then you have to decide on the material you want to use for the actual build of the shroud. cardboard paper would work, but it's just "ugly" for your build biggrin.gif

another alternative is to turn your side panel fan into exhaust and allow the side panel fan to pull the hot air out. however this would reduce the amount of cool air feeding the titans and you would need more work (and more $) to compensating that loss.
Edited by psyclum - 3/7/14 at 6:35pm
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I meant a way to cut the metal on the bottom where I circled which would allow the exhaust to push out and not get stuck back in the card..

Also the 120mm fan came in but it has an adaptor to convert this to a regular power connect. I am confused though since the end of the wire has no adaptor to it:

See photo: How do I make one myself?



Fans installed quiet as can be. Front Fans are holding me back maybe?rolleyes.gif Could be for 2 80mm cant bring enough air in I would assume. Why not move the top rear 80mm fans and move them to the bottom LOFL



Lifts up the cage a little where I cat screw in the last screw

Finished product Next installation 6GB of ram

Just realized this thread should be labeled:

PC-70 Redesign for Optimal Air Cooling.

Going to ask the mods if I can rename it and then see how I can add links to posts with spoilers. I think this would be very beneficial to someone else.


Edited by dpoverlord - 3/7/14 at 7:41pm
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I meant a way to cut the metal on the bottom where I circled which would allow the exhaust to push out and not get stuck back in the card..

i know what you meant. essentially if you move the titan to the bottom slot, the exhaust from the titan will be blowing into a very confined space below the last expansion slot here



and that section of the case will get really hot really fast.

but instead of cutting you can build a shroud to reroute the exhaust airflow to existing 40mm exhaust holes by the GPU's in the back of the case.



you will need to seal off the side would allow the exhaust from the titan to flow blow the mobo so the exhaust of the titan can only flow towards the windowed side panel. (left side panel) and having a shroud there would prevent the hot air from leaking into the rest of the case and it "should" be ok.

or alternatively, you can just change the side panel fan to exhaust which will produce enough low pressure that it will naturally pull that "internal exhaust" out of the case. essentially when the titan is mounted on the last slot, the titans' exhaust is creating a high pressure area inside the area below the last expansion slot and having a low pressure area created by the side panel exhaust fan will naturally pull that hot air out of that location. without a shroud since air always flow from high pressure area to low pressure area.

if you are willing to cut into the case, we could have saved some money and installed a floor mounted 120mm fan (or some other similar solution) instead of buying that new HDD cage biggrin.gif
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any local hardware store like home depot or lowe's etc should have the "cut to fit" type air filter in the window air conditioner section of the store. they are usually either thin foam type or electrostatic mesh types that you just cut with a pair of scissors. just ask the store clerk where to find them. just cut them to the size of the filter holder on the lian li and put the filter right in the filter holder. it works great and it's how i replaced mine when my original lian li filter crumbled to dust due to age biggrin.gif

as for the side panel fan, i still would go with the aluminum filter i linked in one of my previous posts.

Right I meant the side panel* the problem is with the side panel fans where would that filter go? There is not a lot of space between the outside of the case to fan grill to fan. How would it stay locked in and not move into the fan?

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i know what you meant. essentially if you move the titan to the bottom slot, the exhaust from the titan will be blowing into a very confined space below the last expansion slot here
st change the side panel fan to exhaust which will produce enough low pressure that it will naturally pull that "internal exhaust" out of the case. essentially when the titan is mounted on the last slot, the titans' exhaust is creating a high pressure area inside the area below the last expansion slot and having a low pressure area created by the side panel exhaust fan will naturally pull that hot air out of that location. without a shroud since air always flow from high pressure area to low pressure area.

if you are willing to cut into the case, we could have saved some money and installed a floor mounted 120mm fan (or some other similar solution) instead of buying that new HDD cage biggrin.gif

It would be fun? When I cut into this case last time I had friends do it when I was in college which was .... awhile ago:gunner2: Saving money wise...

Well, I am being honest, I really loved this adventure, I love how the case looks now. Its never been cleaner. It looks better with the HDD's up top. Cable management... A lot of hours put in but its beautiful now!

The only problem is the cooling of those titans but a part of me wants water cooling, but is it feasible? I really dont know with this case as it stands... I could Try to open those 4mm ports and put cables out the back, someone also offered me their water cooling setup but its so much maintenance

Cutting wise, its still difficult to do when you live in a big city, I am curious about changing the directions of those fans but the main issue is the bottom slot has NO EXHAUST due to that piece of metal on the bottom. also cant put a 120mm fan on the bottom since I have nothing lifting this case up.
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The only problem is the cooling of those titans but a part of me wants water cooling, but is it feasible? I really dont know with this case as it stands... I could Try to open those 4mm ports and put cables out the back, someone also offered me their water cooling setup but its so much maintenance

IF you are seriously considering liquid cooling / cutting the case, you really should return the 5.25 HDD cage while you still can biggrin.gif there is no need for it if you are going to liquid cool since all of the heat will be piped to the roof. basically you will remove the roof window and cut a hole big enough to mount a 480mm radiator there and mount it with push/pull fans. it would be more then plenty to cool the cpu and 3 x titans. it also puts the currently wasted space above your PSU to work to house the radiator + fans.


the red/pink area above the PSU is where the radiator will reside that will extend into the top 5.25 bays which are also currently wasted space if you return the 5.25 HDD cage you just bought.

the top rear fan slots above the PSU can also be put to work by supplying cool air for the radiator. there is alot of work involved (and a HUGE price tag) since you will likely need to build a bracket to mount the 480mm radiator and then mounting the bracket onto the roof of the case (much like how lian li does with the PSU mounting) so it would look neat (and follows the lian li design feel). but overall it will improve your cooling / OCing capacity by a HUGE amount. much more then what we've been talking about. the titans should idle at around 30c or so (depending on your ambient temp) if you actually go full liquid.

personally i don't like liquid. alot of hassle and things to learn about keeping the liquid clean and leak proof. but if you are looking at a rig that is going to drive 3 x dell 3014's, (and possibly 4k monitors in the future) it's really the better cooling solution. but... you will be losing the "original classic" build mystique and going with a full on hot rod dragster mod biggrin.gif kinda like going from this

LEAD Technologies Inc. V1.01

to this



biggrin.gif

keep in mind the original discussion was for air cooling and no cutting. but if you are doing both, then the whole picture / recommendations changes. tongue.gif
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With all the time and effort put into this, I would have backed out immediately and bought a modern case for this rig. And the case could be a high end one too.
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yah, but there is something to be said for taking a classic and turning it into a beast smile.gif all part of earning your geekhood smile.gif buying a new case would simply be... too easy biggrin.gif kinda like the people who build small form factor rigs. squeezing a titan and a 4770k into a shoebox takes lots of planning and thought too biggrin.gif




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yah, but there is something to be said for taking a classic and turning it into a beast smile.gif all part of earning your geekhood smile.gif buying a new case would simply be... too easy biggrin.gif kinda like the people who build small form factor rigs. squeezing a titan and a 4770k into a shoebox takes lots of planning and thought too biggrin.gif

Yes, I see the point in doing it too, but I would have used the dremel on that case and gutted so many areas to get the airflow to work right.

I like those SFF rigs too, but I love silence and SFF stuff can't fit my heatsinks. tongue.gif Technically I could also tri-SLI Titans too, I would just need another 2 Prolimatech MK-26s with the fan blowing down instead. Can't beat the airflow of open "case". Also very compact.

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I have to say I love my classic case chances are I will never do WC. Its badass, we have to admit we have not optimized this.... I don't see what more we could do.
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