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Exactly this ^ and so well explained. +1 for you sir thumb.gif
Basically you want all your rads to have cool fresh air blowing / pulling through them.
If the case has adequate ventilation - this is the way to go for best possible temps in your loop.
Fair enough! I haven't really decided if I want exhaust for the roof and intake for the rest. Dust will be a lot more problematic than temps! Thanks for the explanation ADragg!
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Nice looking update thumb.gif
Hey Chris,
Great to see 'ya drop in mate
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Looking great! biggrin.gif The red really stands out and gives it a very distinct look. thumb.gif
Thanks Mac,
Hope you start feeling better soon, you sick bastaaard
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Very Nice! Subbed wth.gif
Thanks, and welcome aboard fellas thumbsupsmiley.png
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Originally Posted by Flamso View Post

Fair enough! I haven't really decided if I want exhaust for the roof and intake for the rest. Dust will be a lot more problematic than temps! Thanks for the explanation ADragg!
Another benefit of the CaseLabs top covers - placing filters up top on the intake fans, pop the top cover off and vacuum the filters occasionally, easy biggrin.gif
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Looks awesome man,when are we getting more pics....biggrin.gif
Cheers cheers.gif
How about now tongue.gif

Today I picked up a package from FedEx which arrived while I was away.
It is said so often but they deserve it.........
Thanks so much again to to the CaseLabs crew, Kevin in particular who assisted with my order the whole way through.
My case had 1 defect & 1 panel damaged in transit which needed replacing and Kevin had them out to me within 48 hours - champion applaud.gif

So before going to far ahead I backtracked and.......
New rear section of the ped fitted - the 1st one had no pegs or threaded inserts for the side rad mounts.
As hoped the lowed Flexi-Bay assembly came out as one complete unit biggrin.gif (all the plumbing was assembled in the case so I wasn't certain if it would come out complete)
Think I'll be plumbing this up next rolleyes.gif

Edited by fast_fate - 3/20/14 at 10:53am
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I love the "headers" look on the plumbing to the res!
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I love the "headers" look on the plumbing to the res!

Thanks - It is more for ridgidness (is that even a word rolleyes.gif )
As that section will have a cover of some sort, probably a white acrylic mid-section cover with LED lighting underneath ??

My plans for the ped may have just changed dramatically.
420 rads will fit in the S8 Ped eek.gif
Will have to make mounting brackets and a A little modding required - but this is great news !!!!

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Please Ignore the mismatch fans and the prop supports under the cooler pack.....BUT
I couldn't resist a look with push / pull fans on the rad.

I think this is how it's meant to be biggrin.gif
If 420's fit why run with 360's ???






I probably would have used the mount the middle fan is attached to if the fan spacing on it wasn't 20mm blushsmiley.gif
I'll need 2 mounting plates anyway so I'll make new ones.

You know if the S8 was just 10 - 15 mm longer (depth) the 420 Alphacools would fit out of the box (with a suitable mount) and be centered too.
Might do some research and try to find shorter 420 rads.
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After a bit of fun with the 420 rad last night I've decide to use the 360 rads purchased for the build...
another 2 x Alphacool UT60 white editions.
Didn't want to buy more rads for the build when the 360's I already got kept giving me the look doh.gifwth.gifkookoo.gif

So as BGKris discovered the ped's mounting bracket needs a little modding to accommodate the Alphacool rads
Bit of filing and just like a bought one - prob giving the area a quick touch up spray at some stage.
Now some assembly biggrin.gif


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Originally Posted by fast_fate View Post

Exactly this ^ and so well explained. +1 for you sir thumb.gif
Basically you want all your rads to have cool fresh air blowing / pulling through them.
If the case has adequate ventilation - this is the way to go for best possible temps in your loop.

Thanks!

I actually have eLoops too, but while I heard about the noise issue in pull before I bought them, I heard from Singularity Computers (on YouTube - does amazing builds and he was arguably the guy who started the hard acrylic tubing craze) that the noise came from the fan blades just barely touching the rad itself (if you look at an eLoop, the blades are pretty much flush with the frame, and once they spin up and flex just enough, they start touching/rubbing), not from turbulence or anything like that. So you basically did the same thing as me, which was put some space between them and the rads, but what I did was just put radiator/fan gaskets in there. Mine are very much silent with only a thin rad gasket. Just sayin', in case you want to put them in push/pull in a location where you don't have space for those shrouds.

What brand are those shrouds, though? I'm curious because I actually like that idea too, for aesthetics, but I would want the same ones as yours to be able to know they work. I think certain shrouds could still run the fan if they weren't shaped right. I wonder if there are thinner ones, though, since those are the thickness of an entire fan. Do they completely seal with the fan, though? Because if they didn't I would think you'd lose some static pressure or performance somehow otherwise.
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Fair enough! I haven't really decided if I want exhaust for the roof and intake for the rest. Dust will be a lot more problematic than temps! Thanks for the explanation ADragg!

Well the good thing about using all or mostly intake fans is that the positive pressure helps with dust. In terms of performance, you'd arguably get better performance from all intake in the roof, but fan configs really don't make a huge temp difference usually anyway. The performance probably won't be noticeable or even measurable either way, as long as there's some kind of theory to the setup (obviously you want to avoid fans working against each other and you want to avoid all exhaust because then it would likely get choked with too much negative pressure). There's the theory of convection (hot air rises) that says you want to exhaust out the back and top but while it's a small difference, I've seen people get 2-3 degrees C lower temps using the "all-intake" method in well rear-vented cases (namely the Enthoo Primo and any of the Caselabs cases).

I'm big on all intake because I prefer positive pressure as much as possible for dust reasons and because I think it might yield slightly better temps. But in your case where you're more worried about dust and already know it's not going to make much performance difference, I don't really know what I would do. If you have a filtered top on your case, then I'd go with intakes on the top because it might perform a little better and because it will help with more positive pressure which will help keep dust out even more. Plus I don't like the idea of fans blowing air out against a filter. I would think a filter would be more restrictive when in the way of an exhaust than it is when you have it restricting intake. And I also think the filter itself would introduce less noise over an intake fan. Seems like it might be noisier over an exhaust, since filters do introduce some noise, sadly.

But if you don't have a filtered case, such as a Caselabs, then I'd experiment with both options, or else just do what you like the look of better, because there'd be two schools of thought. You could say exhaust would blow up and out of the case, thus keeping dust out in that manner. But positive pressure in general also helps with dust quite a bit, and it effects the dust intake of the entire case the more positive pressure there is. And since the top of a case often has the most fans and a lot of air intake potential, it could be argued that making the top an exhaust would decrease positive pressure too much and increase the amount of dust you take in altogether. So the top as an exhaust might help a little with keeping dust from entering the top, but it might also introduce more dust in general by decreasing positive pressure too much, so you might be better off intaking from the top still. Hopefully that makes sense.
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A few more things:

-I have to agree, Caselabs and Kevin deserve major props because I also had a little damage on my new white S5 (shipping damage, it seems) and as soon as I reported it, I had a new 36mm vented/windowed top and front cover piece in my hands in literally 48 hours. That's as good of service as you could possibly expect from any company.

What is that white bit of plastic or rubber pinched between the white dual pump adapter and the Blue Ray drive? Is that some sort of cable management thing, or maybe a vibration isolation thing? Which leads me to another pump question, which is do you know how much vibration you'll get from that setup? Is the entire pump section supported by the solid fittings? I'm just curious because I want to hang my pump directly under the res, but the two issues are a) will it be too much stress on the white acetal pump top and acetal bottom res cap(?) and b) will the fact that it's solidly mounted in place cause too much vibration(?). I'm wondering if yours is being supported just by the fittings and if the solid mounting like that will cause noise.

Right now, my pump is velcro'd to the bottom of the case and connected to the res with hard acrylic tubing. I thought the rubber O-rings in the Bitspower Crystal Link fittings and the velcro mount would be enough to keep the pump free of vibration. While I can't feel a lot of vibration, I feel like the way it's mounted might be why it's kind of noisy even at about 2/3 speed. I don't remember the pump being this loud in my Enthoo Primo which had a build in pump mount with thick rubber isolation (and using soft tubing).

Kind of too bad it's not big enough for a 420 rad, since a 420 the same (or slightly more?) cooling capacity as a 480, and there's also the new Phanteks PH-F140 fans which I love for how much air they push while still being even slightly quieter than my eLoops. But you probably wouldn't have noticed the temp gains anyway and the white rads will look nice.

Also, I love those Alpenfohn (sp?) fans! Those are probably my favorite looking fans and I wanted to use them in this new white Caselabs build of mine, but they're just so expensive to get here in the US. Those are such nice fans, though.
post #40 of 610
Another nice update FF
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