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post #11 of 22
Quadro K6000 is the comparable unit and it's 3.5x the price of a TITAN. The only thing it has is 6GB more memory, double precision calculation and error checking on the VRAM.
post #12 of 22
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Originally Posted by PowerOver9K View Post

Quadro K6000 is the comparable unit and it's 3.5x the price of a TITAN. The only thing it has is 6GB more memory, double precision calculation and error checking on the VRAM.
the drivers in quadro line are different as well.
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post #13 of 22
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Originally Posted by Wirerat View Post

We run engeering applications at my job. All the computers have xeon W3550 cpus with nvidea quadro 7000 gpus.

I would think the quadro line is what you need unless you use the titan.

Hey man, yeah I am definatly going for the 4930k over the 4770k, ivy bridge E is the same as the ivy bridge xeon line. And yeah I am opting for a titan if can get one, if not then I will opt for a 780ti

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Originally Posted by PowerOver9K View Post

Quadro K6000 is the comparable unit and it's 3.5x the price of a TITAN. The only thing it has is 6GB more memory, double precision calculation and error checking on the VRAM.

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Originally Posted by Wirerat View Post

the drivers in quadro line are different as well.

Yes the drivers are different, but how much difference is the fp64 calculation between the two? Plus this pc isnt just for render/analysis farm, it is also for gaming/entertainment so I don't know how good quadro/tesla are in that aspect.
post #14 of 22
I think the Titan and Quadro K6000 both run FP64 at the same 1/3 FP32 rate. The major difference is K6000 has 12GB of VRAM with ECC, 2880 CUDA cores vs. 2688 on Titan (2880 on Titan Black) and Quadro drivers which give you different features/performance in certain apps. I'd research your intended apps carefully before plopping down $5000 on a K6000 vs. a $1000 Titan. For many apps, the Titan is 8% less compute performance for a 80% discount.

I can't deny 12GB of ECC VRAM is haute. =)

Greg
Edited by hammong - 2/28/14 at 9:04pm
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I think the Titan and Quadro K6000 both run FP64 at the same 1/3 FP32 rate. The major difference is K6000 has 12GB of VRAM with ECC, 2880 CUDA cores vs. 2688 on Titan (2880 on Titan Black) and Quadro drivers which give you different features/performance in certain apps. I'd research your intended apps carefully before plopping down $5000 on a K6000 vs. a $1000 Titan. For many apps, the Titan is 8% less compute performance for a 80% discount.

I can't deny 12GB of ECC VRAM is haute. =)

Greg

Hey Greg,

thanks for the reply man. I am limited by a budget and since I would want to game as well, I will opt for either a titan or a gtx 780ti. Looked into the programs and they also support OpenCl, which would be helpful since OpenCl works in tangent with the cpu and since I will be getting a 4930k it should be give ample processing power. And like you said the price mark up is only for an extra VRAM with ECC which isn't really needed now, ECC cuts down of processing power, and since I wont be running anything over multiple nights, non-ECC memory shouldn't be a problem I would hope.

So since i know what cpu I am getting, I would need help choosing the other parts but since this section of the forum isnt for building, what would be the appropriate thing to do? Create a new thread for choosing a gpu, motherboard, ram, psu, etc? Or?
post #16 of 22
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Hey Greg,

thanks for the reply man. I am limited by a budget and since I would want to game as well, I will opt for either a titan or a gtx 780ti. Looked into the programs and they also support OpenCl, which would be helpful since OpenCl works in tangent with the cpu and since I will be getting a 4930k it should be give ample processing power. And like you said the price mark up is only for an extra VRAM with ECC which isn't really needed now, ECC cuts down of processing power, and since I wont be running anything over multiple nights, non-ECC memory shouldn't be a problem I would hope.

So since i know what cpu I am getting, I would need help choosing the other parts but since this section of the forum isnt for building, what would be the appropriate thing to do? Create a new thread for choosing a gpu, motherboard, ram, psu, etc? Or?

What's the budget.
post #17 of 22
We've gone far enough in this thread with background to put the build here. =)

Here's my general recommendation:

ASUS P9X79 WS motherboard (or P9X79 Deluxe, if you want Wi-Fi built-in)
4 x 8GB DDR3-1600 or 1866 DIMMS (I'm using Crucial Ballistix Elite DDR3-1866 9-9-9-27 in one machine, and DRR3-1600 9-9-9-27 Ballistix Tactical in another machine)
Samsung 840 Pro or Evo SSD for boot/OS/page/software installation. The biggest one you can comfortably afford.
7200 RPM HDD for data storage, whatever brand/price point you prefer. I like Hitachi Deskstar/Ultrastar, WD Black, or WD Blue. WD Velociraptors are nice too, but 1TB max size.

With a Titan or 780 Ti, you're probably looking for a 550-600W PSU. If you ever plan on going 2-card SLI, then get a 750-800W PSU. I'm sure Shilka will home in and present a recommendation. =)

Greg
post #18 of 22
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Originally Posted by PowerOver9K View Post

What's the budget.

Hey man, its 2500 dollars canadian. I don't want to go over 2700 with shipping and taxes included

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Originally Posted by hammong View Post

We've gone far enough in this thread with background to put the build here. =)

Here's my general recommendation:

ASUS P9X79 WS motherboard (or P9X79 Deluxe, if you want Wi-Fi built-in)
4 x 8GB DDR3-1600 or 1866 DIMMS (I'm using Crucial Ballistix Elite DDR3-1866 9-9-9-27 in one machine, and DRR3-1600 9-9-9-27 Ballistix Tactical in another machine)
Samsung 840 Pro or Evo SSD for boot/OS/page/software installation. The biggest one you can comfortably afford.
7200 RPM HDD for data storage, whatever brand/price point you prefer. I like Hitachi Deskstar/Ultrastar, WD Black, or WD Blue. WD Velociraptors are nice too, but 1TB max size.

With a Titan or 780 Ti, you're probably looking for a 550-600W PSU. If you ever plan on going 2-card SLI, then get a 750-800W PSU. I'm sure Shilka will home in and present a recommendation. =)

Greg

Hey greg,

thanks for the recomendation, I'll look into it more, I am open for the use of pcpartpicker if you guys find that easier to use as well.

Thanks man, will keep the build on this thread =)
post #19 of 22
I would buy a i7 4930k, mainly for parallel programming
post #20 of 22
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Originally Posted by PowerOver9K View Post

Quadro K6000 is the comparable unit and it's 3.5x the price of a TITAN. The only thing it has is 6GB more memory, double precision calculation and error checking on the VRAM.

I would think error checking important for scientific or engineering applications, though I expect that is geared towards long supercomputer calculations.

Also, I presume the 4930k will run cooler under load.
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