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one of those includes a cooling solution.....and the other does not. so yes, the 9590 is significantly more expensive than the 4770k, especially when you consider the other costs associated with having a power hungry CPU. mobo, psu, electric bill.

Well then, get an 8320! wink.gif
Edited by PsyM4n - 3/30/14 at 5:02pm
post #1042 of 1593
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The 9590 would out perform the 4770k .

1: The 9590 is more expensive than a 4770K (no CPU cooler included, and you're gonna need a beastly cooler with a 9590 just to run it @ stock speeds)

2: The 9590 @ 5 GHz is still slower than a stock 4770K in many cases. LOL

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one of those includes a cooling solution.....and the other does not. so yes, the 9590 is significantly more expensive than the 4770k, especially when you consider the other costs associated with having a power hungry CPU. mobo, psu, electric bill.

Well then, get an 8320 you silly!

And get 80% of the performance of the 4770K for 45% of the cost smile.gif.
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one of those includes a cooling solution.....and the other does not. so yes, the 9590 is significantly more expensive than the 4770k, and even more so when you consider the other costs associated with having a power hungry CPU. higher wattage mobo & psu needed than otherwise, and a huge difference in electric bill.

also one has virtually no overclocking headroom. the 9590 with it's ~65% price drop in under 3 months is never going to be a favorable comparison. the FX 8350 would suit the pro AMD posts better.
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post #1045 of 1593
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Will an FX 8350 even bottleneck a 780 TI? That just doesn't sound right when I say it out loud to myself here behind my keyboard... If it doesn't bottleneck the best consumer GPU out there, then what is the fuss all about in the first place?

I think you are absolutely right. And I am not an AMD fanboy either.

The original topic is about AMD not being good for mid-high end. Now people are talking about upgrade prices and the cost of replacing CPUs every year. That has nothing to do with the original topic.
Some diehard pro Intel people said that a 83xx would bottleneck a GTX780,which is a $600 GPU,it would also make a lopsided setup when you're buying a $150 CPU. I doubt that a 83xx at 4.8Ghz would bottleneck a 780 or 780Ti,but I don't have one to try myself.
My 8320 cost me $135,the mobo,$125,and the GPU was $329 (although I could have had a 280X for $279,GG coin miners),I pretty much upgraded my whole system from for $589,try doing that with the Intel equivalent cpu+mobo,lol.
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113347

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116901

..?

Well, at least those benchmarks show that the 9590 takes the 4770k head on.
So would a 8350 @ 5Ghz,no point in spending $339 for a factory overclock.
Edited by Heavy MG - 3/30/14 at 5:18pm
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post #1046 of 1593
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9590 truly is the AMD-only-user centric part, because it relies on people with money to burn choosing to go with AMD despite cheaper and better performing alternative and cost effective options. In short, no matter how you look at it, the 9590 loses to both the 4770k and 3930k in price to performance ratio in every scenario one can conceive.

So Kaveri Vs intel or AMD standalone cpu+gpu.....Nope
So 8XXX Vs Intel....Nope.
So 9XXX Vs Intel...Double nope.

All ultimately lose on price to performance ratio, whether out of the box or in the long run.
Edited by AMDATI - 3/30/14 at 5:16pm
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The 9590 would out perform the 4770k .

1: The 9590 is more expensive than a 4770K (no CPU cooler included, and you're gonna need a beastly cooler with a 9590 just to run it @ stock speeds)

2: The 9590 @ 5 GHz is still slower than a stock 4770K in many cases. LOL

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Why are they comparing the stock 9590 to overclocked I 7's , can't they compete at stock???

They are a little bit low on the cinebench 11.5 scores I get 8.60 or so at 5 ghz even with ram set at 1333 mhz.

In the studio max it's a virtual tie.
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As for (rhetorical) question of what team you play on, I was once on the AMD team.
I actually still have these two chips on my desk lol. See this picture I just took. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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Trivia - name the platform and average overclock of the chip on the left. Go!
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post #1049 of 1593
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Why are they comparing the stock 9590 to overclocked I 7's , can't they compete at stock???

They are a little bit low on the cinebench 11.5 scores I get 8.60 or so at 5 ghz even with ram set at 1333 mhz.

In the studio max it's a virtual tie.
That was from the review where they REALLY didn't have the 9590 Stable. None of the benches were rivaled by mine at the time with my 8350@4.6Ghz and 1600Ram.
Edited by Durquavian - 3/30/14 at 5:33pm
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Why are they comparing the stock 9590 to overclocked I 7's , can't they compete at stock???

They are a little bit low on the cinebench 11.5 scores I get 8.60 or so at 5 ghz even with ram set at 1333 mhz.

In the studio max it's a virtual tie.

Um...that chart clearly shows the stock 4770K besting the 9590, which has no overclocking headroom. Ohhh no I'm sorry there's overclocking headroom.....4.7Ghz to 5.0Ghz......much wow!
Edited by AMDATI - 3/30/14 at 5:21pm
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