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AMD:

Lower Mid: 6XXX
Mid: 8XXX
High: 9XXX

But the problem for AMD is that it tops out a 9XXX while Intel tops out its high end at its 6 core's. Which means compared to what's on the market today, Intels mid range is AMD's high end, especially when it comes to gaming since many games only use 4 cores.....and will continue to do so for some time, and even 4 of Intels cores can be faster than 8 of AMD's, making the gap still there even if games used all 8 cores. And by the time games start using 8 cores, AMD's 8XXX and 9XXX processors will be considered low end for the time, meaning they're going to suffer greatly in performance compared to what's available in the same price range.

ok then, you're doing a direct comparision to Intel.

I was thinking more from a performance standpoint.

i.e
Mid-Range = 1080p, Single GPU and Medium Settings, 120hz

High Range = 1440p+, Multi-GPU and High Settings, 60hz
 
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I'm so lost reading all this. I have a Phenom 2 965 x4 running BF4 right now. Next to me is sitting the FX 8350, did I make a mistake picking AMD over Intel? I play games and render 3D/2D as well as produce audio. Is AMD still a good option? I just don't want to switch to Intel. Be like switching to Mac.
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post #1243 of 1593
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I'm so lost reading all this. I have a Phenom 2 965 x4 running BF4 right now. Next to me is sitting the FX 8350, did I make a mistake picking AMD over Intel? I play games and render 3D/2D as well as produce audio. Is AMD still a good option? I just don't want to switch to Intel. Be like switching to Mac.

Depends on what matters to you. If you don't care so much about the future and just want a rig that runs games decently with the 7950 you have, there's no problem going with AMD.

Now if you care about having a CPU that's still relevant in 2-3 years, Intel is the only way to go. Similarly, if you plan to run high-end GPUs, Intel is a much safer bet. The newest AMD CPUs already bottleneck cards like the 290X and 780Ti, which means that by the time the next GPU generation rolls around next year, they'll bottleneck even midrange cards.

If you care about power consumption, Intel is also much better in that regard compared with FX.
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Depends on what matters to you.

If you care about having a CPU that's still relevant in 2-3 years, Intel is the only way to go. Similarly, if you plan to run high-end GPUs, Intel is a much safer bet. The newest AMD CPUs already bottleneck the 290X and 780Ti, which means by the time the next GPU generation rolls around next year, they'll bottleneck even midrange cards.

how are they bottlenecking them?
 
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Depends on what matters to you.

If you care about having a CPU that's still relevant in 2-3 years, Intel is the only way to go. Similarly, if you plan to run high-end GPUs, Intel is a much safer bet. The newest AMD CPUs already bottleneck the 290X and 780Ti, which means by the time the next GPU generation rolls around next year, they'll bottleneck even midrange cards.

how are they bottlenecking them?

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how are they bottlenecking them?

If you're playing a CPU limited game and one or both cpu's are not running them fast enough to keep the gpu's busy
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post #1247 of 1593
Sure, Vishera is ~15% better than FX, but it's still not a pretty picture for AMD with that 15% added on, especially considering Ivy Bridge and Haswell have faster IPC than the Sandy Bridge CPU tested here:

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So what i'm seeing there is the 8350 is comparable to the 3930k in those tests apart from the RTS games which we already know that AMD doesn't do well in.

Source would also be nice. always good to see what conditions they are running the tests under.
 
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so I kept the receipts, should I quickly return all this AMD crap and go for Intel? I'm gonna do research right now on what I can get for the money spent, with maybe some more money thrown in.
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So what i'm seeing there is the 8350 is comparable to the 3930k in those tests apart from the RTS games which we already know that AMD doesn't do well in.

Source would also be nice. always good to see what conditions they are running the tests under.

RTS, MMO, basically anything with lots of units/players
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