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You aren't paying attention, the issues that I have with them have been there across 4 motherboards, Asrock p67 pro3,MSI p67 G 65, Evga Z68ftw and now MSI Z68 GD-80. 2500k, 2600k, and 3770k chips. Identical ram being used in the latest comparison, though I couldn't clock it on the Intel rig to what I can on the FX.

Have you disabled the power saving features that lower the clock speeds?
I've noticed a lot of simple things can feel a bit sluggish with them on, but that's toggleable.
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The Corsair 100i needs also an internal usb header. Not sure if the Asrock can handle that?

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Originally Posted by cssorkinman View Post

You aren't paying attention, the issues that I have with them have been there across 4 motherboards, Asrock p67 pro3,MSI p67 G 65, Evga Z68ftw and now MSI Z68 GD-80. 2500k, 2600k, and 3770k chips. Identical ram being used in the latest comparison, though I couldn't clock it on the Intel rig to what I can on the FX.

Have you disabled the power saving features that lower the clock speeds?
I've noticed a lot of simple things can feel a bit sluggish with them on, but that's toggleable.

I've noticed that too, so when I make comparisons I lock the clockspeed at a certain point.
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Your sig says your FX-8320 is only running at 4 GHz. That's barely overclocked.

To get any kind of a decent OC out a FX-8320, you need something like a H100i. And by "decent", I mean > 4.6 GHz.

And FX needs every last MHz it can get in order to even try to compete with a 4770K. So, yes, you do need a H100i on a FX rig.
No,no I don't. Read the rest of my post,please. If I had decent ambients( as in normal temps like 68F),I'd be doing 4.5Ghz right now.
I wouldn't buy a CLC that is prone to fail anyway.
The 4770K is high end,this whole thread is mid-end. Amazing that you Intel people go from 4670K all of a sudden to a 4770K and act like they even compare in anything,they aren't even in the same price range.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116901 - $339
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113285 -$159
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£95 for d3h - same vrm as z87x-oc - no problem running volts that will degrade the cpu, while board is cool and stable
Because it is right now ludicrous to suggest that a physical CPU can cause such issues, it's unheard of. Bios stuff, OS, motherboard etc causes this kind of stuff all of the time, however
The Z87X-D3H is still a $145 board,but I must say it's nice for the price. Gigabyte doesn't disappoint in that price range on the AMD side either.
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The 4770K is high end,this whole thread is mid-end. Amazing that you Intel people go from 4670K all of a sudden to a 4770K and act like they even compare in anything,they aren't even in the same price range.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116901 - $339
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113285 -$159

Total system cost difference is <10% between a FX-8320 system with a single R9 290 and a 4770K system with a single R9 290.

I don't know about you, but I would for sure pay that extra 10%.

The fact that the 4770K is a more expensive CPU is not really true. If anything, the FX-8320 is the more expensive CPU once you consider that:

1) You need a more expensive motherboard with the 8320 if you don't want the VRMs to explode when you OC.
2) You need a more expensive cooler with the 8320 if you want to get a good OC out of it
3) The 8320 is going to cost at least $50 more over a couple of years due to the extra power usage vs. a 4770K
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post #1396 of 1593
Okay, lets compare the i5 4670k with the fx 8350 then. They both are mid end.
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post #1397 of 1593
If we're gonna pull in some "Mid Range" (what exactly is a mid range) into this. I might as well bring along my Athlon.

5599 CPUmark. For 80$, yes please.

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Okay, lets compare the i5 4670k with the fx 8350 then. They both are mid end.

WHY ARE THEY MIDRANGE????
We keep throwing these words around but there isn't a real definition of them? 3351 is the cutoff for a "Mid Range" CPU on cpubenchmark.net
But Tomshardware places an i3 4130 in the Mid Range category. Where are we pulling our measurements of Mid Range and High End?

This is like saying a Prius is a Sports Car.
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Yeah,because using the stock heatsink on a Intel for 4Ghz while hitting 80C seems feasible. rolleyes.gif
Are you aware that this is OCN? Who the heck uses a stock heatsink here?

80C is 20C below the rated TJ max of a Haswell, and with the paltry voltages you need for a modest OC like 4GHz, such a part will probably last forever running at 80C 24/7. Also, an 80C TJ is about 60C TCASE.

I use the stock cooler on a few of my mainstream Intel builds, because it takes 30-50 dollars to get ~200MHz more, and a lot more money to go appreciably higher than that.

You do not need more than 4-4.2GHz on an Intel quad to match or best the performance that the highest clocks you are likely to get stable out of a Vishera is likely to give you on anything less than chilled water, nor do you need anything more than the stock heatsink to safely and reliably hit such clocks on LGA-1155 or 1150 chips.

You say AMD is cheaper, then you insert these disclaimers that say 'but you must spend way more than you need to on the Intel setup', for it to be true.

Lets set a budget at $300 (and assume Newegg prices) for CPU, board, and cooling (since everything else can reasonably be identical between the platforms) combined. Do you honestly believe the fastest possible AMD setup in this range is going to be competitive with the fastest possible Intel setup in this range?
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This thread isn't about generation old hardware,Alatar already warned us about it.

The trend holds with current gen hardware as well.
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Try putting a Haswell on a cheapo Asrock board and stock cooler,you'll hit a wall pretty fast.

The motherboard dependent wall is generally well beyond the clocks I am speaking of.

I have seen 4.2GHz Haswells on 60 dollar motherboards.
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If you want the most from Haswell,or Vishera you actually have to spend money on a motherboard.

90-95% of the most is perfectly sufficient.
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Wow,you haven't used anything since a 8150?

I currently have an FX-8150 so I can't possibly have used anything past it? I've got a 486DX 33 somewhere too, I guess that means I haven't built an Intel system in 25 years.

I do not currently own a Vishera, though my next one will not by my first, nor likely my last.
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If you actually tried a 8320/8350,you'd know it's night and day in heat output,as well as quite a bit less in power consumption.

Vishera is still exceptionally power hungry, I've used them. Your statement is nonsense. Power consumption (and thus heat output, as they are the same) is moderately better at the same clock speed on Vishera, but once both parts are pushed to their limits it's really quite close.
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I remember a reviewer couldn't even keep a 8150 under control with it strapped to a NH-D14,Bulldozers had crazy heat output.

An NH-D14 (I have two) is not sufficient 24/7 cooling for an eight-core Vishera once you get into the 4.5GHz+ range. You need a top-end CLC or a custom loop. It's not at all hard to get a Vishera to push 300w+.
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Total system cost difference is <10% between a FX-8320 system with a single R9 290 and a 4770K system with a single R9 290.

I don't know about you, but I would for sure pay that extra 10%.

The fact that the 4770K is a more expensive CPU is not really true. If anything, the FX-8320 is the more expensive CPU once you consider that:

1) You need a more expensive motherboard with the 8320 if you don't want the VRMs to explode when you OC.
2) You need a more expensive cooler with the 8320 if you want to get a good OC out of it
3) The 8320 is going to cost at least $50 more over a couple of years due to the extra power usage vs. a 4770K
I did 4.5Ghz on a cool day,my house is still intact FYI. We're talking about R9 290's now? How is a R9 290 MID END? Please,tell me because I'd love to know.
You can use the stock cooler and have hot temps to degrade your Haswell with a thermal paste'ed core die all you like,either way you'll need a aftermarket cooler if you want real overclocks.
Power use is subjective as everyone's power bill isn't the same,and not everyone leaves their pc on 24/7 365.
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An NH-D14 (I have two) is not sufficient 24/7 cooling for an eight-core Vishera once you get into the 4.5GHz+ range. You need a top-end CLC or a custom loop. It's not at all hard to get a Vishera to push 300w+.
A NH-D14 is better than most CLC coolers ,yet you're trying to say a FX 83xx can't be used with a NH-D14 when you're basing your assumptions from a older FX-8150.
Edited by Heavy MG - 4/5/14 at 7:17pm
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So those benchmarks i ran meant what exactly?

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So i went ahead and did some tests: FX 8350 @ 4.8 and CF R9 290's, All tests at 1080p

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Ryze of the Devil
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FX Trooper 2.0
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Ryzen Threadripper 1950x (ES) X399 Aorus Gaming 7 Sapphire RX Vega 64 32GB TridentZ RGB 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
240GB HyperX Predator 500GB Samsung 850 Evo 2TB Firecuda EK Predator 360 
OSMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Win 10 Pro Phillips 349X7FJEW LG 34UM95 Logitech G910 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair AX1200i Thermaltake Core X9 Logitech G502 Star Citizen Drake Goliath 
Audio
Logitech G933 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Ryzen 5 1600 MSI X370 Xpower Gaming Titanium  RX580 Red Devil 16GB Corsair Vengeance LED 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Samsung 960 Evo OCZ Trion 150 Fractal Design Kelvin S36 Win 10 Pro 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Nixeus NX-VUE24A Thermaltake Poseidon Z RGB Thermaltake Toughpower Grand RGB 750w Thermaltake View 31 RGB 
Mouse
Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-8370 Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z R9 290x 16GB G.Skill TridentX 2400Mhz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Samsung 840 Evo 250GB Samsung External Blu-Ray Burner Fractal Design Kelvin S36 Windows 10 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Whatever Logitech G19 Silverstone ST1200w CM Storm Trooper 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
Logitech G502 Star Citizen Drake Goliath Logitech X530 5.1 Logitech G930 7.1 Wireless Headset 
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Ryze of the Devil
(13 items)
 
FX Trooper 2.0
(16 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Ryzen Threadripper 1950x (ES) X399 Aorus Gaming 7 Sapphire RX Vega 64 32GB TridentZ RGB 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
240GB HyperX Predator 500GB Samsung 850 Evo 2TB Firecuda EK Predator 360 
OSMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Win 10 Pro Phillips 349X7FJEW LG 34UM95 Logitech G910 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair AX1200i Thermaltake Core X9 Logitech G502 Star Citizen Drake Goliath 
Audio
Logitech G933 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Ryzen 5 1600 MSI X370 Xpower Gaming Titanium  RX580 Red Devil 16GB Corsair Vengeance LED 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Samsung 960 Evo OCZ Trion 150 Fractal Design Kelvin S36 Win 10 Pro 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Nixeus NX-VUE24A Thermaltake Poseidon Z RGB Thermaltake Toughpower Grand RGB 750w Thermaltake View 31 RGB 
Mouse
Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-8370 Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z R9 290x 16GB G.Skill TridentX 2400Mhz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Samsung 840 Evo 250GB Samsung External Blu-Ray Burner Fractal Design Kelvin S36 Windows 10 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Whatever Logitech G19 Silverstone ST1200w CM Storm Trooper 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
Logitech G502 Star Citizen Drake Goliath Logitech X530 5.1 Logitech G930 7.1 Wireless Headset 
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