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I went over this
Why is this relevant when you can run 1.5vcore and kill the chip on a £94 board?
Not sure what you're smoking, but i want some. The 8320 has been argued as equivalent to 4670k but it falls short in places (with some slight advantages) and is cheaper as a result

I was talking about costs. People have been complaining that the 8320 needs a expensive board. If someone buys a $300 intel cpu, are they really going to limit what they can do with it by not buying a good board? No they are going to spend the money. And you confirm what I said that and is just as fast as an i7 but knock it because it's only slightly??? No common sense. By your own reasoning, the I7 is slower but in some cases only slightly faster...
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Ohh look, the 8350 and i7 both 4770 and 4960 are dam near identical in power consumption.. But but but.. That means the i7 is horrible too then...
post #1563 of 1593
Kyad - thanks for pointing out MC pricing tongue.gif
It certainly counts in my book. UD3P+8320 for $179 hehe. AMD or Intel builds, I really do feel for people who don't have one locally. That $80 diff lends itself to a better GPU/larger SSD, what have you. The Intel diff is $160 from Newegg ($189+$75 vs $240+185) - which translates to an entire GPU tier change rofl.

That said an entire CPU/combo at the price of just a 4670k is nice.

Just give us a SR/Excv update on the desktop. Then I will return.
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I was talking about costs. People have been complaining that the 8320 needs a expensive board. If someone buys a $300 intel cpu, are they really going to limit what they can do with it by not buying a good board?

i5 is ~£165, and while you could buy a £350 board for it, there's no gain to core overclocking potential on air/water for 24/7 past about ~£95 or so
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Ohh look, the 8350 and i7 both 4770 and 4960 are dam near identical in power consumption

I don't know what you're smoking that would make you think a 4670k, an 8350 and a 4930k would have the same power consumption tongue.gif

4930k has 2 extra cores and HT. If 4670k consumed as much power as a CPU from last gen architecture that encoded at saay.. 60% faster speeds, it would be hilarious
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Ohh look, the 8350 and i7 both 4770 and 4960 are dam near identical in power consumption.. But but but.. That means the i7 is horrible too then...

Now you're just overacting.

The 4770 is untouched in terms of consumption.

The rest are another subject... I could mention why the intel hexa-cores draw more though. tongue.gif
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i5 is ~£165, and while you could buy a £350 board for it, there's no gain to core overclocking potential on air/water for 24/7 past about ~£95 or so
I don't know what you're smoking that would make you think a 4670k, an 8350 and a 4930k would have the same power consumption tongue.gif

4930k has 2 extra cores and HT. If 4670k consumed as much power as a CPU from last gen architecture that encoded at saay.. 60% faster speeds, it would be hilarious

What I'm smoking??? I'm looking at the graph that shows power consumption are you blind?
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I'm confused, you say the amd is horrible because of power consumption but it has the same power consumption as a 4770 oc'd. Same power consumption as the 4960..and less then the 4960 overclocked. I know the 4960 is faster. That's not at issue. A 8350 performs close to a 4770 but the 8350 is horrible when they consume close to the same power. Do you realize how incredibly stupid that sounds?
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What I'm smoking??? I'm looking at the graph that shows power consumption are you blind?

The graph where

a stock 8350 has 38% higher system power draw than a stock 4770K?
And where an OC'd 8350 has 85% higher system power draw than an OC'd 4770K?
And where both at stock and once OC'd a 4960X will draw less power than a 8350? While being 50%+ faster?

That graph?
 
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Ohh look, the 8350 and i7 both 4770 and 4960 are dam near identical in power consumption.. But but but.. That means the i7 is horrible too then...
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I'm confused, you say the amd is horrible because of power consumption but it has the same power consumption as a 4770 oc'd. Same power consumption as the 4960..and less then the 4960 overclocked. I know the 4960 is faster. That's not at issue. A 8350 performs close to a 4770 but the 8350 is horrible when they consume close to the same power. Do you realize how incredibly stupid that sounds?
The 4770K still consumes a lot of power when OC'ed,and a 4670K is the same thing without HT and a few other things turned off,so the power consumption would be similar.
I don't get why you even brought up the 4960X? It's a $1,000 CPU,if you can afford it and the board to go with it,you're going to use a custom loop anyway and not even care about the power bill.
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I'm confused, you say the amd is horrible because of power consumption but it has the same power consumption as a 4770 oc'd. Same power consumption as the 4960..and less then the 4960 overclocked. I know the 4960 is faster. That's not at issue. A 8350 performs close to a 4770 but the 8350 is horrible when they consume close to the same power. Do you realize how incredibly stupid that sounds?

 

What :headscrat? You really might want to check up on your logic. Straight from Heavy MG's graph:

 

4770k stock: 158 W 

8350 stock: 218 W

 

60 W difference at stock clocks on both chips.

 

4770k @ 4.5Ghz: 195 W

8350 @ 4.6Ghz: 359

 

164 W difference at OC on both chips. And a 4.5Ghz 4770k lays waste to a 4.6Ghz FX-8350 in most everything out there. Not to mention the OC'd 4960X lays waste to pretty much both CPUs previously mentioned and only pulls 77W more than a stock FX-8350.

 

They don't consume anywhere near close to the same power. Did you even bother to read the proof that you are trying to argue? Here is another link of the same graph Heavy MG linked about 11 posts before mine.

 

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