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having Intel with the advantage but I can tell you it isn't 50% in Intel's favor.

If you run 1-4 threads it is
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Skyrim is CPU bound in 90%+ of the cases, not GPU bound. It's the reason I chose it.

Also, since this is an enthusiast forum, we should really be looking a resolutions beyond 1920 and whatever if we could, like I posted. Post those. Because that's how it's going to be used. Who cares what the CPU does at 1280x1024. Does anyone play at those settings? I've always found those comparisons, idiotic. Find the setting and software you'll actually use, then compare.


Again, I run Intel myself. But, remember, the premise of the thread is that AMD is not viable for the high end. All I'm saying is that's wrong. It doesn't have to be the "best" to be viable.
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post #253 of 1593
While I can see valid points for both arguments, it really comes down to personal preference and budget. Being fairly new to OCN and custom built machines in general, I feel I am speaking from an average consumers standpoint. If AMD can do what I want it to do i.e. play games surf the interwebs ect at a mostly lower price than Intel, then I am going with AMD. The guys I tend to game with also all run AMD (with one exception) for the same reason. I'm sure if we had the extra cash to throw into our various machines we would probably go Intel, but the fact remains that AMD gives us great performance vs. price. No I don't have any quantifiable data to back that up. Is there a benchmark for having a good gaming experience, and still having a bit of money in my pocket? Again sadly no. But for some reason AMD keeps selling their products and until they stop I will probably keep buying them like countless others. I'm sorry for those of you who have posted here, that don't think opinions count. This is my very humble opinion. Thanks to all of you who have enlightened me, and even those who cannot see the forest for the trees. thumb.gif
post #254 of 1593
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Skyrim is CPU bound in 90%+ of the cases, not GPU bound. It's the reason I chose it.

Also, since this is an enthusiast forum, we should really be looking a resolutions beyond 1920 and whatever if we could, like I posted. Post those. Because that's how it's going to be used. Who cares what the CPU does at 1280x1024. Does anyone play at those settings? I've always found those comparisons, idiotic. Find the setting and software you'll actually use, then compare.


Again, I run Intel myself. But, remember, the premise of the thread is that AMD is not viable for the high end. All I'm saying is that's wrong. It doesn't have to be the "best" to be viable.

I agree we should run resolutions over 1920, but you shouldn't do that with an underpowered GPU's that runs both cpu's at half load and call it a cpu comparison tongue.gif
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I agree we should run resolutions over 1920, but you shouldn't do that with an underpowered GPU's that runs both cpu's at half load and call it a cpu comparison tongue.gif


I don't disagree and again though, all I'm talking about is the end product. While for us, when benching, FPS, scores, etc mean a lot; it's why I chose Intel for now. But when you're trying to save some money, build a machine and play a game with great settings, overclock, bench, still get good results and most importantly, have fun with it, you can't dismiss AMD out of hand. Is it going to be the best? No, but that's not what I'm arguing. That is as what was said above, one of my favorite sayings that works quite well in this community, "Missing the forest for the trees." Because after all, if you're enjoying your gear and it's doing what you want it to do, isn't that the point? Now, if the point is to get the best scores possible, then obviously, that's a different conversation, but again, that's not the premise of THIS thread.
post #256 of 1593
Sure, most games will run "ok"

"most", and "ok"
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But that is the problem, wording. There is nothing about my system that says OK. I have gotten better than most reviews with less. I run 7770x2 and run high to ultra on most of my games. Skyrim I run full 2K textures with 4eq SSAA with high FXAA SMAA 8xAF capped @ 75FPS. There isn't a single Skyrim review with a 8350 and a 7970 that alludes to the outcome I got. If you got the desire and patience to learn how to tweak your system, be it AMD, Intel or Nvidia, then you will quickly learn the reviews mean Jack.

You want to know what to buy, ask those that actually use it. A review will only get you so far.
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I agree, just think there's too many games right now where FPS is too low in comparison to oc'd 4670k for it not to be considered a liability if you're throwing $1k at a build (mid range)

especially with >60hz monitor
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You want to know what to buy, ask those that actually use it. A review will only get you so far.

Problem is, we have plenty of members that are biased, which is why we use benchmarks to objectively look at a product.

I still wouldnt purchase either vendor right now. I still vote X5660, more performance than the best offering from AMD, and cheaper than comparable Intel offerings still being produced
    
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You want to know what to buy, ask those that actually use it. A review will only get you so far.

Problem is, we have plenty of members that are biased, which is why we use benchmarks to objectively look at a product.

I still wouldnt purchase either vendor right now. I still vote X5660, more performance than the best offering from AMD, and cheaper than comparable Intel offerings still being produced

True but that is a little too tidy, benchmarks certainly can be biased even if not intentionally made to be so.

It's about understanding your needs and matching your purchase to those needs, a screwdriver makes a very poor hammer.
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