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So I've decided I want to get a tablet in the next month or so depending on if I get one through work or not. It is likely I will go with a Windows tablet since I want to be able to use it here at work if need be. That all said I have been trying to decide between a Tegra 4 platform and an Atom Z3770 platform. What I cant decide about them is whether the speed advantage of 600MHz is enough to make up for the less advanced architecture of Tegra. And that OCN, is where you come in. So many of you know more about mobile hardware than I do that I'm quite sure some of you will be able to give me some advice on this.

The other question I had was how smoothly does 8.1 run on tablets? Is the 2GB of RAM that seems to be in most of them really enough for Windows and other applications or do I need to suck it up and get a tablet/slate with an iSeries chip and 4GB of ram?

Lastly, after Windows is installed how much of a 32GB tablet will actually be left? This feels like something I should know, but with Tablets I don't know because I never really payed them much attention as anything more than a mobile entertainment device until the Windows tablets started to evolve into what they are now.

Any help you can give me is much appreciated everyone smile.gif
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I'm in a similar position my self researching tablets lately. I can't answer all of your questions, but one thing I will say is with Tegra 4 vs Atom, it looks like the Atom is the way to go IMO. The Tegra 4 is ARM, so you'll be locked down to Windows RT. With that, you'll only be able to install the apps from the Windows app store. With the Atom Z3770 you'll have a full blown x86 install of Windows - it's just like on any other PC. You'll still be able to run the Apps from the Microsoft app store, but you'll also be able to install any other regular Windows programs as well. It's much more flexible and the few reviews of Bay Trail I've read sound like it's a very capable chip on a tablet.

Good luck with your choice. smile.gif
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I have a Dell venue 8 pro and it is fast, no slowness at all.

On a 32GB you get about 10 usable.

One thing for sure, you want to go x86 for windows tablets. Stay away from the half assed windows RT with ARM.
    
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I have the Dell Venue 8 pro 64gb. It is very snappy, and doesn't hang at all. I don't allow a lot of the apps to operate in the background, so that may be part of that. It plays video very well, and actually has a decent graphics processor. There are videos on youtube of people playing starcraft 2 and various games on it.

I had a motherboard failure on mine just recently, but I have one off the first production run. Dell also handled it very well, and got it fixed in a very quick time.

In conclusion, I can't say enough about it, other than I starting to wish I would have waited for the venue 11 pro. The extra screen real estate would have been nice because I travel constantly for work.
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I personally wouldn't spend the money on a windows RT device if you are looking for a windows 8 tablet, the Intel Atom has come a long way from what it used to be. It can handle HD resolutions and actually play certain games quiet well! I was watching a review of a guy playing Portal on it, yeah not a demanding game but crazy to imagine you have a quad core in a tablet that is x86!

I have an older Win8.1 tablet, the Lenovo Thinkpad Tablet 2 with the Atom Z2760(2C / 4T), and even with the lower spec'd CPU/GPU then newer tablets of today, 2 GB of memory performs very well in usual tasks like surfing the web, writing documents with Word or Excel. To compare it to my old laptop from HP, a dv7 4183cl (before I replaced the 5400 rpm drive) the tablet is much faster, and has a much higher quality screen then my laptop could ever manage. With these new Atom tablets out the improved performance would do quite well with these wonderful 720p/1080p screens. I wish they would make a 1600p variant though, hopes? smile.gif

I'm not too sure, maybe something like 15GB's or so with Windows installed on a 32GB drive, maybe more or less. I imagine there are some guides to help allaviate some space on the OS, kind of like we have with SSD's (maybe the same concept applies). My storage is 64GB which gave me around 35GBs or so, but the cool thing is look for a Win 8 tablet that has a MicroSD slot, I bought a 64GB Samsung card and put that in my tablet right now and it's been great. Lot's of movies/music all easily accessible anywhere if I don't have WiFi nearby or can't access my network.

I'm looking to get rid of my Thinkpad soon because the Dell Venue 11 Pro look's like an amazing device touting a 1080p IPS screen, newest quad core Atom's, and it looks like a very nice keyboard as well. Also a full blown USB 3.0 port that comes in handy for USB DAC's or external storage drives. I've connected my mechanical keyboard to it and my Xbox 360 controller as well, it's quite awesome to have it, I just wish they would have 1 more USB slot.
Edited by Shogon - 3/2/14 at 2:47am
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So from the sounds of it, Dell makes a pretty darn good windows tablet. For watching videos, reading PDFs, and working on the occsional office document while still being conveniantly portable which would be better? 8in or 10in?
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Personally, if it were me, both sizes are adequate. I've owned a iPad mini before and the size was perfect for what I did with it, this Lenovo has a bit over 10" screen size and it is very nice, so if I had a life or death choice between the two, I would choose the bigger one. Unless you need super ultra portability then the 8" would be good.

Looking at the models between the Dell 8 and 11, I would go for the 11 with the atom CPU.

Personally looking between the two the 11 pro seems really good. Detachable battery, 1080p display, Full USB 3.0+mini hdmi, better camera, bigger screen, and the 64GB model is $500 on Amazon I think.




Here is another tablet that is close to the Dell's in spec's but it is much cheaper.

The Hp Omni 10






http://www.amazon.com/HP-O10-5600US-10-1-Inch-Tablet-Graphite/dp/B00GSPW2QG


When I came across this tablet I hit a crossroads. The display is very close to the Dell's, in terms of size, resolution, not sure about colors or brightness. The only downsides are the 32GB size (can be expanded with MicroSD though), lack of accessories unlike Dell (if you can even buy them), Mini-USB 2.0 (requires a little mini-usb thing, costs like $7), micro-hdmi and I think that is about it.

I'm actually going to wait a bit more, considering I bought a new GPU, and I heard 64 bit Windows tablets may be on the horizon later this year. Those will bring with it 4GBs of memory, higher spec'd Atom's, and my biggest hope 1600p displays.

Forgot about this little guy, I more or less passed him by because of the low resolution, the ASUS Transformer Book T100TA.






You get a lower res screen, lower spec'd CPU (more then enough I bet, considering I'm using a dual core), micro-usb, but you do get the keyboard included in the price, making this a affordable 2-in-1, to a degree.

I do like the Asus because it comes with a keyboard, I just wish the resolution was a bit better in that regard.
Edited by Shogon - 3/5/14 at 2:09pm
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Even if I love Windows tablet for all they are, the OS is not ready. It is not yet comparable to android or ios.
I will be returning mine tomorrow, I bought a Kobo Arc (close to the nexus 7 2012) 32gb for 90$ instead, a replacement for my old Kobo Vox that is now slow (most be a sd card problem). I will buy a windows tablet again when it get closer to windows 9 and they have real 64bits tablet.
    
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