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*until you realize Ashton Kutcher nearly committed suicide because his twin brother (suffering from cerebral palsy) needed a heart transplant....*

*until you realize his initial degree was in biochemical engineering to help cure his brother's condition*

*until you realize he worked in a factory for General Mills and donated blood to get enough money to make it by*

Wow, didn't know any of that. +Rep
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Wow, didn't know any of that. +Rep

Yep.

The dude is actually quite brilliant.

Like I said earlier, he pioneered and redefined the entire VOIP market.

You literally wouldn't have Skype or any VOIP provider in your home right now, if it wasn't for the innovation they brought to the table.

Above/beyond that, he's now a major investor for a few apps that are going to be hitting the marketplace, soon -- and these are GOOD ideas...
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Wow, didn't know any of that. +Rep

google it..and you'll know thumb.gif

EDIT: He is working on tablets, not phones.

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Yep.

The dude is actually quite brilliant.

Like I said earlier, he pioneered and redefined the entire VOIP market.

You literally wouldn't have Skype or any VOIP provider in your home right now, if it wasn't for the innovation they brought to the table.

Above/beyond that, he's now a major investor for a few apps that are going to be hitting the marketplace, soon -- and these are GOOD ideas...

Roger Wilco was widely known and used amongst the online gaming community around the time AK was dropping out of university and pursuing his modeling career. To say that his investments or actions are integral in any way to having voip software available are like attributing the invention of the internet to Al Gore.
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Guys, I'm sure he is punking us biggrin.gif

I'm glad I wasn't the only one thinking that.biggrin.gif
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Roger Wilco was widely known and used amongst the online gaming community around the time AK was dropping out of university and pursuing his modeling career. To say that his investments or actions are detrimental in any way to having voip software available are like attributing the invention of the internet to Al Gore.

Having a great financial advisor makes someone brilliant these days it seems. Also, picking your major in a lofty sounding field even if you drop out makes you brilliant. biggrin.gif
 
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Having a great financial advisor makes someone brilliant these days it seems. Also, picking your major in a lofty sounding field even if you drop out makes you brilliant. biggrin.gif

ha so true. i had friends that majored in engineering then dropped it...just because you major in something doesn't mean you're capable of getting the degree lol
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Roger Wilco was widely known and used amongst the online gaming community around the time AK was dropping out of university and pursuing his modeling career. To say that his investments or actions are integral in any way to having voip software available are like attributing the invention of the internet to Al Gore.

First of all. I said Ooma was one of the pioneers in standardizing VOIP and they actually were.

Kutcher was a MAJOR owner in Ooma and was their creative director since incarnation.

While I really don't want to soup to nuts this Ooma later led to over 1/2 the improvements that were made to Skype.

So, actually, yes, Ooma, a company that Kutcher directed, made an incredible difference in the distribution and the P2P base code that exists today...

...I guess by your logic Al Gore had nothing to do with the internet? Even though he campaigned and was a large part of it's actual launch in 93? - No, I guess he didn't campaign for anything or influence anything, regardless of his claims of course.

I'd suggest you do some research prior to putting finger to key.
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Kutcher was part of the management team for Ooma, a tech start-up launched in September 2007. Ooma is in the Voice over Internet Protocol business and Kutcher's role was as Creative Director. He spearheaded a marketing campaign and produced viral videos to promote this service. Kutcher also created an interactive arm of Katalyst called Katalyst Media, with his partner from Katalyst Films, Jason Goldberg. Their first site was the animated cartoon Blah Girls. *wikipedia AK
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Roger Wilco is a voice-over-IP application used by multiplayer video game players, usually in combination with a headset.[1] The name is derived from a common voice procedure in two-way radio. Roger stands for "I understand what you just said" and wilco is short for "will comply". The software provides gamers the benefit of not having to communicate by typing, allowing them better control over their games. The software also works outside of games. It is similar in function to programs like TeamSpeak, Ventrilo, and Mumble, although these all enjoy the benefit of newer (better) codecs due to more active development cycles as of late.
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It was originally created by Resounding Technology, Inc., a company that merged with HearMe, Inc., owner of MPlayer.com, in October 1999. GameSpy bought the source code in December 2000 and added an improved version of the program to their GameSpy Arcade software in early 2001. The application was freeware prior to the purchase by GameSpy, the software now requires a subscription in a bundle with GameSpy's tools. *Wikipedia-Roger Wilco
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AK is said to have been part with no certain reference of when, of a company, that was launched in 2007. The tech is sourced as being in widespread use by major interests before 2007, when AK's company of involvement is reputed to have launched.
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Also in 2000, GameSpy turned GameSpy3D into GameSpy Arcade and purchased RogerWilco, MPlayer.com and various assets from HearMe; the MPlayer service was shut down and the RogerWilco technology is improved and incorporated into GameSpy Arcade. GameSpy Arcade was the company's flagship matchmaking software, allowing users to find servers for different online video games (whether they be free or purchased) and connect the user to game servers of that game. GameSpy also published the Roger Wilco voice chat software, primarily meant for communication and co-ordination in team-oriented games, where users join a server to chat with other users on the server using voice communication. This software rivaled the other major voice chat software Ventrilo and Teamspeak. The company's "Powered by GameSpy" technology has enabled online functionality in over 300 PC and PlayStation 2 games. In 2005, GameSpy added the PlayStation Portable, and Nintendo DS to its stable supported platforms. In March 2007, GameSpy added the Wii as another supported platform. *Wikipedia- Gamespy
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So to recap we have Kutcher coming in to the game in 2007, with vent and teamspeak (and Roger Wilco) already established as popular voip applications. I'm not very familiar with his contributions so I will allow that he may have refined or brought some attention to the tech, however the timeline imo rules him out from being considered a pioneer or a key figure in the availability of using voip programs today.
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Kutcher was part of the management team for Ooma, a tech start-up launched in September 2007. Ooma is in the Voice over Internet Protocol business and Kutcher's role was as Creative Director. He spearheaded a marketing campaign and produced viral videos to promote this service. Kutcher also created an interactive arm of Katalyst called Katalyst Media, with his partner from Katalyst Films, Jason Goldberg. Their first site was the animated cartoon Blah Girls. *wikipedia AK
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Roger Wilco is a voice-over-IP application used by multiplayer video game players, usually in combination with a headset.[1] The name is derived from a common voice procedure in two-way radio. Roger stands for "I understand what you just said" and wilco is short for "will comply". The software provides gamers the benefit of not having to communicate by typing, allowing them better control over their games. The software also works outside of games. It is similar in function to programs like TeamSpeak, Ventrilo, and Mumble, although these all enjoy the benefit of newer (better) codecs due to more active development cycles as of late.
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It was originally created by Resounding Technology, Inc., a company that merged with HearMe, Inc., owner of MPlayer.com, in October 1999. GameSpy bought the source code in December 2000 and added an improved version of the program to their GameSpy Arcade software in early 2001. The application was freeware prior to the purchase by GameSpy, the software now requires a subscription in a bundle with GameSpy's tools. *Wikipedia-Roger Wilco
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AK is said to have been part with no certain reference of when, of a company, that was launched in 2007. The tech is sourced as being in widespread use by major interests before 2007, when AK's company of involvement is reputed to have launched.
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Also in 2000, GameSpy turned GameSpy3D into GameSpy Arcade and purchased RogerWilco, MPlayer.com and various assets from HearMe; the MPlayer service was shut down and the RogerWilco technology is improved and incorporated into GameSpy Arcade. GameSpy Arcade was the company's flagship matchmaking software, allowing users to find servers for different online video games (whether they be free or purchased) and connect the user to game servers of that game. GameSpy also published the Roger Wilco voice chat software, primarily meant for communication and co-ordination in team-oriented games, where users join a server to chat with other users on the server using voice communication. This software rivaled the other major voice chat software Ventrilo and Teamspeak. The company's "Powered by GameSpy" technology has enabled online functionality in over 300 PC and PlayStation 2 games. In 2005, GameSpy added the PlayStation Portable, and Nintendo DS to its stable supported platforms. In March 2007, GameSpy added the Wii as another supported platform. *Wikipedia- Gamespy
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So to recap we have Kutcher coming in to the game in 2007, with vent and teamspeak (and Roger Wilco) already established as popular voip applications. I'm not very familiar with his contributions so I will allow that he may have refined or brought some attention to the tech, however the timeline imo rules him out from being considered a pioneer or a key figure in the availability of using voip programs today.

*Sigh* you kids and wikipedia.

That Wikipedia article in regards to Ooma is incorrect. So is the entire involvement of Wilco in reference to it's role in Voip. The article in reference to AK's involvement in Skype is also misleading...It also downplays his role but, that is what it is.

Roger Wilco - Was it a quality program? Yes, I should know, I beta'd it...In fact, we used it primarily in Everquest Raids (That's how far I go back, Everquest BETA). GSA was not so good, actually and when it was acquired by GS, we still used the root (Roger Wilco) to communicate...So, yeah, been there, done that -- Actually do have the Tshirt in a box in my Mom's basement.

In regards to AK/Voip:

AK played a major role as a financier in Ooma...In fact, he was a major investor...He was given a role that he was okay at, he wasn't great at it but, none-the-less, his involvement still changed the game.

Most of his ideas changed how we PTP over a network using Voip -- Had it not been for Ooma in general and Ooma's failures, AK would've never taken those ideas TO skype...Now if you REALLY want to soup to nuts this, we could have an entire discussion about Jangl that literally was the base for the VAST MAJORITY of Voip startups...Which Jajah bought out their existing patents in 08...The owner of Jangl was the one whom actually hired AK to be their face of PR...Which, he actually became more than that since he invested back into the company (but, your wikipedia article doesn't denote that)...

You seem to forget that AK actually has significant voting stock in Skype...In fact, AK is not only a principal investor in Skype, he holds serious interest. (Skype launched in 2003, not 2007. (FYI))

When Skype underwent MAJOR changes in 2007/8 the entire service was streamlined...And it was then that Voip actually boomed...The changes you ask? Oh, those were all of the failures of Ooma and Jangl...In fact, insiders will credit a certain individual in pushing for those changes and streamlining the directive team in charge of those changes.

How do I know this? Oh, I was there - Alienware. In fact, we "redid" Skype's servers for them in 07 while I was there and were considered developers of Skype for about 2 years so, we beta tested practically everything and discussed //everything// with the higher ups.

So, got anything other than Wikipedia because I've got real life?
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