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My own opinion on the matter: Everyone is expecting a system in which we can all play together off of one persons account. As above, game maker won't make any money!!! Unless a million people buy the game, and share it with there friends, but games are becoming multimillion. So what's the point? SO THEN, the game makers are going to throw in in-game stores, which everyone hates, and games are going to become play-to-win. Stop complaining, this is the best it's gonna get for a while. It's just a step-forward. More will come with time. Give it a chance.
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Seems like a good thing to me. My girlfriend can now use her own PC and Steam account to access my steam games for play. It will save her own save files and achievements. This is a lot better than giving her my user name and password and actually logging in to my account.
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I know you guys all hate origin, but I would really like their game return policy to be adopted at steam. That is something that actually matters to me.

There's a scale of difference there though. Steam sells vastly more than just Valve's games. Whereas origin sells... pretty much only EA games.
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Think about it from the Game makers point of view. If only one person is buying a game for lets say, 10 people. They won't make any money. Then if the game makers don't make money you can't have stuff like Steam. Yeah, I agree it would be fantastic if we could play simultaneously, but were not to that point yet. Idk if we will ever be, but profit needs to be made from these games.

No one is asking for the same game to be played simultaneously... the desire is to play DIFFERENT games simultaneously... How is that any different than me passing around the CD of my game to a family member? Only one person is able to play at a time per given CD key... Is this really all that difficult to comprehend?
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But really? When does anyone truly "log off" of Steam. I know tons of people that have it running in the background. You don't have to be playing a game for someone to play another game.

Does it matter? The only thing this gimmick adds is personal achievements for family members...
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No one is asking for the same game to be played simultaneously... the desire is to play DIFFERENT games simultaneously... How is that any different than me passing around the CD of my game to a family member? Only one person is able to play at a time per given CD key... Is this really all that difficult to comprehend?
Does it matter? The only thing this gimmick adds is personal achievements for family members...

Well how I originally saw this idea was that two people can play on one shared account. The second FAQ is making it confusing as it seems you can't. What it looks like to me is they can't play the same game at the same time.
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Think about it from the Game makers point of view. If only one person is buying a game for lets say, 10 people. They won't make any money. Then if the game makers don't make money you can't have stuff like Steam. Yeah, I agree it would be fantastic if we could play simultaneously, but were not to that point yet. Idk if we will ever be, but profit needs to be made from these games.

My wife's account has Guitarsmith and i have Guitarsmith 2014 on my account. She should be able to play Guitarsmith 2014 on her computer while I play some other game on my computer. I intentionally put the new version on my account so we both had a version of Guitarsmith that we could play on our computers. It would have been nice to share my newer version with her, without locking me out of my own library of games. If i wanna play Civ5 while she is playing Guitarsmith 2014, I should be able to.

Their implementation is almost useless. Yes its better than nothing, but if they allowed you to define a shared library, that would solve everything for most people. Of my 400 games, i know she would like to play 10 of them, then i could add my 10 to the library and have that shared library locked out when in use. They could easily add things like each computer can only have 1 shared library.

BUT, this is all crazy hard to do securely. Requiring all to have the same public IP is easily bypassed by using a proxy or programs like hamachi. One thing that they probably could do is require both accounts to have the same credit card address, this is still problematic. Perhaps have stream check their default gateways and their private IP's and macs to see if they match up. They should just put a huge warning saying that abusers will have their accounts banned and put a few checks inside there and keep an eye on these accounts.
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post #67 of 69
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Does it matter? The only thing this gimmick adds is personal achievements for family members...

Yes it does, because how I perceived it was that the person had to be playing a game so someone else could play another game. IDK why I thought this, but I did. So it does matter. Because if you had to do that, it wouldn't be out of Beta already. So, I'm telling that person all he needs to do is stay logged in.
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My wife's account has Guitarsmith and i have Guitarsmith 2014 on my account. She should be able to play Guitarsmith 2014 on her computer while I play some other game on my computer. I intentionally put the new version on my account so we both had a version of Guitarsmith that we could play on our computers. It would have been nice to share my newer version with her, without locking me out of my own library of games. If i wanna play Civ5 while she is playing Guitarsmith 2014, I should be able to.

Their implementation is almost useless. Yes its better than nothing, but if they allowed you to define a shared library, that would solve everything for most people. Of my 400 games, i know she would like to play 10 of them, then i could add my 10 to the library and have that shared library locked out when in use. They could easily add things like each computer can only have 1 shared library.

BUT, this is all crazy hard to do securely. Requiring all to have the same public IP is easily bypassed by using a proxy or programs like hamachi. One thing that they probably could do is require both accounts to have the same credit card address, this is still problematic. Perhaps have stream check their default gateways and their private IP's and macs to see if they match up. They should just put a huge warning saying that abusers will have their accounts banned and put a few checks inside there and keep an eye on these accounts.

I could definitely work with that. But maybe do something like how they did with sharing computers. You create the shared library, invite or have people join it, and when you/they do, you send a code to them, that gives their account permission.
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What it looks like to me is they can't play the same game at the same time.

You are mistaken...
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Can the user I am sharing with play my games if I am playing a different game?
No. Only one user may use a shared library at a time. If another user is playing a game from your library, and you start to play ANY game from your library, they will be given five minutes then kicked from the game. If you are playing ANY game from your library, and another user attempts to play ANY game from your library, they will be blocked from playing until you finish playing.

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