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What vcore you use for 4.8Ghz?
1.375, but needed 1.45 to get over 5GHZ. Maybe less, but I haven't played around with it much.

50% of this computer's life is music playback running an extremely stripped out version of Server2012 R2, so overclocking is, well, kind of just for curiosity.........
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1.375, but needed 1.45 to get over 5GHZ. Maybe less, but I haven't played around with it much.

50% of this computer's life is music playback running an extremely stripped out version of Server2012 R2, so overclocking is, well, kind of just for curiosity.........
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personally spend the extra and go the 8350, I did and I do NOT regret it at all , I was originally gonna get the 6350 but like billbartuska said.. future proof

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There is only a $10-20 difference between the FX 6350 and FX 8320. Why would anyone get the 6 core when you can have an 8 core for only a few bucks more?

If you're planning on keeping the system for a while, the 8 core is the way to go.

Your guys points are valid, I have been trying to figure what to do wrt to my upgrade path from my Phenom II, but in my case I think I'll stick with the 6300 unless microcenter offers the 8320 for $99 again
For future proofing I have a 3820 that I will use for my next build but the cost of the X79 motherboard mad.gif
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There is only a $10-20 difference between the FX 6350 and FX 8320
Yeah, but theres a $40-$50 difference between the FX 6300 and FX 8320. The 6350 just comes with a better stock heatsink than the 6300, which you really dont want to use anyway.
    
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Unlike the difference between the FX-8320 and FX-8350, where we see higher clocks within the same TDP envelope indicating a higher "binned" product, the FX-6350 does NOT clearly represent a higher binned product IMO, as the higher clocks come with a higher TDP envelope, which is not indicative of a better bin to me.

The "if-then" statement is as follows: IF 3.5ghz@1.25V = ~95W. THEN 3.9ghz@1.35V = ~125W

(0.025V/100mhz is pretty much the standard for these chips in their sweet range).

More specifically, the math works about like this: (1.35V/1.25V)^2*3.9GHZ/3.5GHZ*95W=123.4W
Interestingly enough, even though a CPU is in fact a semi-conductor, power consumption scales with the square of voltage very much like a traditional conductor. The math used in traditional circuits (ohms law) works very good for CPUs. Likely because at these radically low voltages and high currents, ohms law winds up totally dwarfing the active effects at play.

In conclusion, there's no "better binning" required to achieve the FX-6350 specs over the FX-6300 IMO.
Edited by mdocod - 4/2/14 at 6:14pm
     
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If I had a budget and my main goal was gaming, I'd go with the 6350.
The 6350 benches higher in single-thread performance than the 8320, and the 6300 is about the same.

I'd probably go with the 6300 to save some extra money though.


If you plan to record videos, or encode things, then the 8320 is worth it.
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Instead of getting AMD, get yourself an i5 4430 & MSI h81m-e33 that's much cheaper and a better value with up to twice as much performance (fps) in games.
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Instead of getting AMD, get yourself an i5 4430 & MSI h81m-e33 that's much cheaper and a better value with up to twice as much performance (fps) in games.

Instead of derailing the thread, how about resolve the OP's question instead?

Personally between the two I would grab the 8320, their usually close in price at times
    
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Instead of getting AMD, get yourself an i5 4430 & MSI h81m-e33 that's much cheaper and a better value with up to twice as much performance (fps) in games.

That also comes with no ability to change the multiplier (no overclocking), and is not very future-proof. In terms of raw performance, an overclocked FX 8320 will outperform a i5 4430 in highly-threaded tasks... easily.

http://anandtech.com/bench/product/698?vs=702 <- yes I know it's a 3470... that's as close as it will get.

i5-4430 @ Amazon: $185.99

FX-8320 @ Amazon: $151.99

The 4430 will not overclock at all, while the FX 8320 will overclock to 4.5Ghz+ easily (mine is @ 4.7Ghz 24/7 stable) That will yield at least a 20% increase in performance, if not more. Sometimes, that can even be done on only a slight bump above stock voltage, which means there is very little power penalty for overclocking. Sure if you try and overclock it to 5Ghz it's going to suck down a lot of juice, but then again, Intel's processors do too once the voltage is raised enough.

So the intel is more expensive, doesn't overclock, and gets beaten by an overclocked FX 8320 in 90% of real-world scenarios... that's an easy decision. thumb.gif
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That also comes with no ability to change the multiplier (no overclocking), and is not very future-proof. In terms of raw performance, an overclocked FX 8320 will outperform a i5 4430 in highly-threaded tasks... easily.

http://anandtech.com/bench/product/698?vs=702 <- yes I know it's a 3470... that's as close as it will get.

i5-4430 @ Amazon: $185.99

FX-8320 @ Amazon: $151.99

The 4430 will not overclock at all, while the FX 8320 will overclock to 4.5Ghz+ easily (mine is @ 4.7Ghz 24/7 stable) That will yield at least a 20% increase in performance, if not more. Sometimes, that can even be done on only a slight bump above stock voltage, which means there is very little power penalty for overclocking. Sure if you try and overclock it to 5Ghz it's going to suck down a lot of juice, but then again, Intel's processors do too once the voltage is raised enough.

So the intel is more expensive, doesn't overclock, and gets beaten by an overclocked FX 8320 in 90% of real-world scenarios... that's an easy decision. thumb.gif

No the overclocking option is useless, an 8320@5GHz doesn't match an i5@stock for gaming: http://www.pcgameshardware.de/screenshots/original/2013/09/SC2HotS-pcgh.png

Noticing that the IPC is still a good 50% higher, definitely making the fact that the 8320 is overpriced and a waste of money.

You should stop claiming that a 8320 is futureproof when futureproof is nonexistent, before we'll see games all being optimized for all of its cores it would form a massive bottleneck so no point even bringing this up. Something thats outdated now, will never ever be futureproof.
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Instead of derailing the thread, how about resolve the OP's question instead?

Personally between the two I would grab the 8320, their usually close in price at times

It should be mentioned that he's buying a cpu with IPC from 2008, he's planning to game and do some overclocks but since AMD's cant even keep up with Intel even at 5GHz, there's no point getting one.
Edited by Faithh - 4/2/14 at 9:21pm
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